From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308B21381F3 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25A7B21C041; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7C6321C02C for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (pool-71-245-176-92.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [71.245.176.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zerochaos) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ABFFD33C34C for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2012 15:42:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50B23CA4.90506@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 10:43:32 -0500 From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121029 Thunderbird/16.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] open season on other-dev's packages -- policy change? References: <20121123022210.GE4100@comet.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> <50AF84E9.2020608@gentoo.org> <50AF8916.9070004@gentoo.org> <50B1C234.40609@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <50B1C234.40609@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5a1pre X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: 513 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 724d0dd2-6f14-432d-a757-34339d85305d X-Archives-Hash: 9c272f208431ca0d3acaf5a9784c4d99 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/25/2012 02:01 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 11/23/12 22:32, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Ian Stakenvicius schrieb: >>> On 22/11/12 11:22 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:22:10PM -0600, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >>>>> On 11:11 Sun 18 Nov , Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>>>>> Here's a list of every package where I'm a maintainer and there >>>>>> is no herd listed (but their might be other maintainers): >>>> I didn't say I was dropping any of the packages, merely making an >>>> explicit list of packages I maintain, that other developers are >>>> welcome to touch - if they want to take them over explicitly, that >>>> would be great too. >>> >>> >>> .. For certain things, I think it would be very beneficial for this >>> to be true (other dev's welcome to touch) across the tree. Maybe if >>> there is enough general support for it, we should change our default >>> of "never touch a maintainer's package without permission of the >>> maintainer/herd", to "OK to touch unless package metadata explicitly >>> requests not to" ...? And we can put a tag in the metadata to >>> indicate this (or even to indicate what other dev's can and can't >>> touch -- ie, can touch *DEPEND, can bump EAPI, cannot add features, >>> cannot bump)? >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> >> >> What certain things do you have in mind? In wich situation do you see a >> simple "May i touch the package?/ok for this patch?" as too much to do >> before touching a package? >> > To me it's random noise, if I'm in the package metadata just do it. No > need to distract me :) I completely agree. There is a lot of territorialism that is *completely* unwarranted. If you see an issue with one of my packages and want to fix it, please, be my guest. Especially if it had a bug on bugzie and you close that bug. I get an email when my packages are touched, if I don't like your change I'll tell you why and then fix it. If you horribly break my package, you may hear about it, but you certainly won't get yelled at for fixing my bugs or bumping a package. Thanks, Zero > > And there's tons of packages that have a "maintainer" in metadata and > bugs just go into nirvana (like apache)... > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQsjykAAoJEKXdFCfdEflK0kUQAIB42lvd+oBP9xC9n9krkyzA pIdQw/npCZtfQ4ZRXjkrhWf8uP9RkwB04qmFRO/DrxFlMu5QJ+wGPeu8zqRCJBri GWqMATtZdvxHGeyKoAc/jJjp9+OHQ+izR7sGGo26uttj5QcA51e8e+568rw1xXk4 FQqQEOP9WXL8z8NOOo8ybv3SBqSg/+yHl05aInLhutKQAAtdOPy60nblGPMEyVIJ deoMFUU5PsJRaAsHL30iBlclFpgn6UK8bdxTfMiXvEECUrAj+Hx6vSIh8cMPCdLq SHT6Dcs8JkhKGEMX0v3CBzZ4yU/y36cSwNMah9eSFVnfW/R+7Mpt9Q3lfElwOSkl OAtDqwEiyTgTG/ucOkFb+UBaAOpdlRsC0vbck5RDQaF3AWERpBx9AZ/qVjRg39jt Yn7iads9FUAtrQ5bgMxHPkDlzNF50R99Ud41rJ1vZwl0JdrAgem5Pt2cO6TPEeZ8 6SeyVYQdRpqO3fMi6ijYTZEPiIX+EUJ8RkunUwgMHAhcn2IeAtkbbY5a3+1V2wpm lIP5di6TujmlX7x9zy6UI2ItSnvlwX/rq2XkPOyo4j+wyyQJN4VD2QT4wERuDADK ICJA/yke8tmsVo3Uxjtv8Yqbuug/AvD9blxlLpEPcuY5XKZOsxzzQFeRG7u5S+aZ 16yQHoOjDNFN9882Ggy5 =D8vW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----