From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30701381F3 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA3B721C08D; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:01:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69B74E05F9 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.20] (p548D1A4B.dip.t-dialin.net [84.141.26.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tommy) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D4BE533D8FF for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50AF8FA7.2000006@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:00:55 +0100 From: Thomas Sachau User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] open season on other-dev's packages -- policy change? References: <20121123022210.GE4100@comet.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> <50AF84E9.2020608@gentoo.org> <50AF8916.9070004@gentoo.org> <50AF8CAF.3040008@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <50AF8CAF.3040008@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 OpenPGP: id=211CA2D4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigEBB1DF5EB0C7A391A0E371C2" X-Archives-Salt: 81d2f92f-e8bc-4579-b6de-be03a6b0b311 X-Archives-Hash: e1bce987fba3728da5513c7bcb59ab17 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigEBB1DF5EB0C7A391A0E371C2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian Stakenvicius schrieb: > On 23/11/12 09:32 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Ian Stakenvicius schrieb: >>> On 22/11/12 11:22 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>>> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:22:10PM -0600, Donnie Berkholz >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 11:11 Sun 18 Nov , Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>>>>> Here's a list of every package where I'm a maintainer and >>>>>> there is no herd listed (but their might be other >>>>>> maintainers): >>>> I didn't say I was dropping any of the packages, merely making >>>> an explicit list of packages I maintain, that other developers >>>> are welcome to touch - if they want to take them over >>>> explicitly, that would be great too. >>> >>> >>> .. For certain things, I think it would be very beneficial for >>> this to be true (other dev's welcome to touch) across the tree. >>> Maybe if there is enough general support for it, we should change >>> our default of "never touch a maintainer's package without >>> permission of the maintainer/herd", to "OK to touch unless >>> package metadata explicitly requests not to" ...? And we can put >>> a tag in the metadata to indicate this (or even to indicate what >>> other dev's can and can't touch -- ie, can touch *DEPEND, can >>> bump EAPI, cannot add features, cannot bump)? >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> >=20 >> What certain things do you have in mind? In wich situation do you >> see a simple "May i touch the package?/ok for this patch?" as too >> much to do before touching a package? >=20 >=20 > This works, and when, say, myself and the other dev are on irc it's > very quick, but then if I don't write it down or communicate it to my > other couterparts in the herd this permission gets lost in the > shuffle. I'm just suggesting that if we put it in the metadata then > it'll be easier to track. You can already add a comment in the ebuild or metadata.xml to explicitly allow everyone to touch it, so there is nothing needed to allow you or anyone else interested in it doing this now. Just reverting this default probably wont happen, since it just means additional work and issues without any real benefit (like mass commits to add the notes, missed additions and others touched the package and other problems). --=20 Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer --------------enigEBB1DF5EB0C7A391A0E371C2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iJwEAQECAAYFAlCvj6wACgkQG7kqcTWJkGd8vwP8DPTNP283xIirocvH0/b2AbW0 lA9OXsW1/3njf9RYpVyFOKtNFrSZU3hvVv9oIfbl1GCXpeTAKtXAP2Y2BFv+fNA/ irexVPK2rBN2DPEjya7y1Yaeo0nleQNP5My1+vh2EEqH3HJP+PMCHu+lYOL3LUEz 5kKHHJNcBBzmeEz7VOU= =ELSu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigEBB1DF5EB0C7A391A0E371C2--