From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC86C1381F3 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0868221C0DE; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-da0-f53.google.com (mail-da0-f53.google.com [209.85.210.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E72421C0C4 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f53.google.com with SMTP id g9so1781724dad.40 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:00:52 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=9ki7bqUSRnri4+c85ox2ecrMKappjdGAKEG/oX35dOI=; b=UujM8QU5hvhl5vRyVQM4OIqaU3whDpyZ+LJs8AHRQtGX/0qJlmMSaK7kjJIxuNEAv0 rmHiE2jGT8p1cXw5zSSOwAEQsvv8D7ZJZEcvTENGeCaw8yNiyQmKhgxbBOtoyReTs2ry pQK0cTT/QG8s4qNXn6ZaOQ095qbFuxj8kZzsumzWHXgFUiBt5DqXemhriPqdKS9d9ytO xebv3Z12zzl6n/w38W9BzAswgaDZXDZEQJv87kqO6LjvlHS8Dihh3BF9AtLqdA6Ae6A+ u5sEELHPt7davsYFxJ8QGIcktObw60ICUCwR2eo3jUSvw5H5TQFy43S904NEbK/dRo01 uVyw== Received: by 10.68.251.197 with SMTP id zm5mr31884458pbc.30.1353254452891; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:00:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from saladin.home.flameeyes.eu ([2001:470:d:ce2:226:b9ff:fed7:bf1f]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vi9sm4652713pbc.41.2012.11.18.08.00.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:00:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50A9062B.3040003@flameeyes.eu> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:00:43 -0800 From: =?UTF-8?B?RGllZ28gRWxpbyBQZXR0ZW7Dsg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121027 Thunderbird/16.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] References: <20120509183203.GA27545@kroah.com> <4bdd949a377d40eb85590870be440551@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu> <50A8943E.7070607@gentoo.org> <20121118080845.GA8628@kroah.com> <50A89A73.3050709@flameeyes.eu> <50A8C257.7060103@mva.name> <50A8F918.2010802@flameeyes.eu> <50A90205.8040402@mva.name> <50A9030A.60806@flameeyes.eu> <20121118155405.GF83592@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20121118155405.GF83592@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5a1pre Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3205EAB3D4DB79C3BAC2B9A5" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk1l2NHkLy54xYZ7712Br/6dCfsXZGpJwk9koydZmSqQnTOEGCPyiqO3R3ndoPTyPeGx3bs X-Archives-Salt: e1c25363-813f-417a-8740-380d4a23b8ca X-Archives-Hash: d828fa020e5be0d867563a09b9805efa This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3205EAB3D4DB79C3BAC2B9A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/11/2012 07:54, Fabian Groffen wrote: > It's your choice to participate on those social platforms. Please don'= t > make it our problem. It doesn't add anything useful to this discussion= =2E It adds. Because, while I don't know about you, I rely on Gentoo on my job. And many others do, too. And making Gentoo the laughing stock (_again_, I'd add) is something that is detrimental to all of us there, as it makes it harder to let it be seen for what it is (a very real, quit reliable distribution) rather than a juvenile effort to be different from the rest. How long did it take us to get rid of the "Gentoo is rice" fame? Do we want to go back to that? _I_ don't think so. So yes, the "social platforms" matter and are our problem. And it appals me that a member of the council can't see that. --=20 Diego Elio Petten=C3=B2 =E2=80=94 Flameeyes flameeyes@flameeyes.eu =E2=80=94 http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ --------------enig3205EAB3D4DB79C3BAC2B9A5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQqQYrAAoJEBqCrVe7WSRDGgkH/id2dblbVoNRUh4Zx25t14KY koftrf50lN6TyJOngmimMePhRhjWYiEiIQUrFo+h48E54QfRdSAc3MybXTPb4cth 5Tds1NpsP0XVmp5iHoL+xBHEquyQNo7ST9TVJlggtvYPl924saFgaSnnjr+hnDVS oYifuA1/SuE5jXlUtyEJy5mQzVIst5zgPRLsWrXyeTR4rvk1pRHJszUDZWsav2iz UcfZcgf76O10wH1oJna83bByRbaBXjFnXhUkeMxqwniN2J5WsmYBKs3kf7Z8ChUd YQ9PSqUVniLFd2HQPwRi2n+KvyH0zndOSxPmW2T/WhTSnLXCGljoETE3jA2YtZI= =7CwQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3205EAB3D4DB79C3BAC2B9A5--