From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80FBF1381F3 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68527E0642; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9146E05F2 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.41.238.46] (212-226-41-177-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [212.226.41.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 620EB33D872 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50A8FBC2.200@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:16:18 +0200 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121101 Thunderbird/16.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] References: <20120423012540.GA2130@waltdnes.org> <20120505010529.GD22763@kroah.com> <20120509183203.GA27545@kroah.com> <4bdd949a377d40eb85590870be440551@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu> <50A8943E.7070607@gentoo.org> <20121118080845.GA8628@kroah.com> <50A89A73.3050709@flameeyes.eu> <50A8C257.7060103@mva.name> <50A8F918.2010802@flameeyes.eu> In-Reply-To: <50A8F918.2010802@flameeyes.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 67b21518-dc0e-445c-ad2f-5be13be77351 X-Archives-Hash: 796361d4d85d86b1a9a245374f449fa2 On 18/11/12 17:04, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 18/11/2012 03:11, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: >> >> [Just asking because all you angry answers to some devs make me think >> that you're on SysD side, when tons of Gentoo users and Gentoo devs are >> on "non-SysD-related udev" side.] > > The fact you're asking means you really haven't been following anything > I've been doing lately. As many other developers can easily attest, I > don't use systemd and I'm not planning to use it anytime soon. > > So your whole rant picking up on my post is completely misdirected. Same here. I haven't even tried it and got no plans to. I'm still happy enough with building udev out from systemd tree and letting sep. /usr consept from 90s to finally die in favour of simplifying the system. The BIOSes have been upgraded last century to support booting from larger partitions, the need has long past. Nobody has ever provided a valid reason for using sep. /usr in the ML either. - Samuli