From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C880C1381F3 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F82521C098; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:16:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C75D21C094 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.26] (e178074050.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.178.74.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chithanh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0861933D911 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50A8C328.9030207@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:14:48 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2jDrS1UaGFuaCBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciBOZ3V54buFbg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121103 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012) References: <20121106212816.GE82762@gentoo.org> <20121117190207.GY83592@gentoo.org> <20121118032922.GA2335@kroah.com> <50A85DB8.9060608@gentoo.org> <20121118041919.GA2920@kroah.com> <50A86327.5060805@gentoo.org> <20121118043511.GA3184@kroah.com> <50A86B84.5080801@gentoo.org> <20121118051911.GA3857@kroah.com> <50A8739A.2030509@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 14c40970-7859-4e18-be9d-d8e6bbec6a93 X-Archives-Hash: 31ee7dcb3353848b91f946f05110c808 Matt Turner schrieb: >> Then udev switched to kmod as a build-time dep. I could no longer >> package.provide kmod as I had module-init-tools, because it was required >> to /build/ udev. For no valid reason on my system. Like any unnecessary >> feature that can be used to load an exploit, it's worse than useless. > # du -sh /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/kmod-11-r1/image/ > 240K /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/kmod-11-r1/image/ I think the complaint was not about the installed size. Some people have "install as little unnecessary code as possible" as part of their security concepts. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn