From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDAE1381F3 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 306B0E01A3; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 022BD21C083 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.41.238.46] (212-226-41-177-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [212.226.41.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B054733D875 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50A8A6D4.9040707@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:13:56 +0200 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121101 Thunderbird/16.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012) References: <20121106212816.GE82762@gentoo.org> <20121117190207.GY83592@gentoo.org> <20121118032922.GA2335@kroah.com> <50A85DB8.9060608@gentoo.org> <20121118041919.GA2920@kroah.com> <50A86327.5060805@gentoo.org> <20121118043511.GA3184@kroah.com> <50A86B84.5080801@gentoo.org> <20121118051911.GA3857@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20121118051911.GA3857@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 23d971d3-621f-4de1-b6a7-c5dd16205b36 X-Archives-Hash: 9373109e90c4a67253cdac2e192ff1d6 On 18/11/12 07:19, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:00:52AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: >> Having a builtin is a good idea, but the implementation as a mandatory >> dependency on kmod is not. The plan is to reintroduce it as an optional >> dependency, so that distributions (and Gentoo users) that do not want it >> can avoid it. None of us want to force dependencies on others and there >> is no need for this one. > > You do realize that you didn't really drop the dependency at all, right? Exactly what I had in mind. So far I see bunch of regressions (back to bundling code :() in the "eudev" repository and more it deviates from the orig. upstream the less attractive it's looking... What should be done, at most, is to cherry-pick and revert the things that killed the sep. /usr support, put it behind an USE flag to the current udev's ebuild, perhaps IUSE="+vanilla", and be done with it. - Samuli