From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1731381F3 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFE3221C063; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80D3E21C07B for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (pool-173-77-245-118.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [173.77.245.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ryao) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7AA2133D863; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50A897E0.4080404@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:10:08 -0500 From: Richard Yao User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.10) Gecko/20121107 Thunderbird/10.0.10 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg KH CC: "gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org" Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] References: <20120423012540.GA2130@waltdnes.org> <20120505010529.GD22763@kroah.com> <20120509183203.GA27545@kroah.com> <4bdd949a377d40eb85590870be440551@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu> <50A8943E.7070607@gentoo.org> <20121118080845.GA8628@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20121118080845.GA8628@kroah.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig08BAEEE7E86A2D9BFA7BE4B7" X-Archives-Salt: 3ef0d7f3-366f-483b-924f-29fedb72dff5 X-Archives-Hash: 76c80b1b587dd78f8e0274f5dd5a029d This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig08BAEEE7E86A2D9BFA7BE4B7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/18/2012 03:08 AM, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 02:54:38AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: >> On 05/09/2012 06:36 PM, Greg KH wrote: >>> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:51:37PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote: >>>> I foresee a new udev fork then. >>> >>> Please feel free to do so, the code has been open since the first day= I >>> created it. >>> >>> Remember, forks are good, there's nothing wrong with them, I strongly= >>> encourage people to do them if they wish to, it benefits everyone >>> involved. >>> >>>> If udev is going to end up like avahi is, this is *highly* probable.= >>> >>> That's an odd transition... >>> >>>> With "avahi is ..." I actually mean, one single tarball blob dependi= ng >>>> on the whole world and its solar system and galaxy. >>> >>> Hyperbole, how nice :( >>> >>>> Please stop throwing lennartware at people. FailAudio has been enoug= h, thanks. >>> >>> The use of these terms is both rude and totally uncalled for. You >>> should be ashamed of yourself. >>> >>> Seriously, that's unacceptable behavior from anyone. >>> >>> No one forces you to use any of this software if you do not want to. >>> There are lots of other operating systems out there, feel free to swi= tch >>> to them if you do not like the way this one is working out, no one is= >>> stopping you. But for you to disparage someone who has given immense= >>> bodies of work to the community, and you, for free, is horrible behav= ior >>> and needs to stop right now. >>> >>> greg k-h >>> >> >> Greg, would you clarify what you meant by this? >=20 > Meant by what part of the above response? Written 6 months ago? >=20 >> Your recent comments suggest to me that you did not mean what I though= t >> you meant. >=20 > What did you think I meant about what? >=20 > Again, I have no objection to people forking projects, it's great, and > fun to watch happen. Fork away on your own site, with whom ever you > want to. >=20 > But if this fork is now the "official Gentoo fork", owned by the Gentoo= > Foundation, and it's the way forward that Gentoo the distro is going to= > take with regards to how the boot process works on the system, then I > have something to say about it, as it affects me, a Gentoo developer. >=20 > And that is how this thread started, I wanted to know what was the > resolution of the council meeting with the very unclear and vague > meeting minutes. I have yet to get that answer, which is troubling. >=20 > thanks, >=20 > greg k-h You are the one claiming that this is our official fork. None of us are. This will be an official Gentoo project when we make the announcement in the next few days. That makes it one project of many. GLEP 0039 clearly states how this works. 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