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From: Richard Yao <ryao@gentoo.org>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@gentoo.org>
Cc: "gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org" <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:10:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50A897E0.4080404@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121118080845.GA8628@kroah.com>

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On 11/18/2012 03:08 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 02:54:38AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
>> On 05/09/2012 06:36 PM, Greg KH wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:51:37PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>>>> I foresee a new udev fork then.
>>>
>>> Please feel free to do so, the code has been open since the first day I
>>> created it.
>>>
>>> Remember, forks are good, there's nothing wrong with them, I strongly
>>> encourage people to do them if they wish to, it benefits everyone
>>> involved.
>>>
>>>> If udev is going to end up like avahi is, this is *highly* probable.
>>>
>>> That's an odd transition...
>>>
>>>> With "avahi is ..." I actually mean, one single tarball blob depending
>>>> on the whole world and its solar system and galaxy.
>>>
>>> Hyperbole, how nice :(
>>>
>>>> Please stop throwing lennartware at people. FailAudio has been enough, thanks.
>>>
>>> The use of these terms is both rude and totally uncalled for.  You
>>> should be ashamed of yourself.
>>>
>>> Seriously, that's unacceptable behavior from anyone.
>>>
>>> No one forces you to use any of this software if you do not want to.
>>> There are lots of other operating systems out there, feel free to switch
>>> to them if you do not like the way this one is working out, no one is
>>> stopping you.  But for you to disparage someone who has given immense
>>> bodies of work to the community, and you, for free, is horrible behavior
>>> and needs to stop right now.
>>>
>>> greg k-h
>>>
>>
>> Greg, would you clarify what you meant by this?
> 
> Meant by what part of the above response?  Written 6 months ago?
> 
>> Your recent comments suggest to me that you did not mean what I thought
>> you meant.
> 
> What did you think I meant about what?
> 
> Again, I have no objection to people forking projects, it's great, and
> fun to watch happen.  Fork away on your own site, with whom ever you
> want to.
> 
> But if this fork is now the "official Gentoo fork", owned by the Gentoo
> Foundation, and it's the way forward that Gentoo the distro is going to
> take with regards to how the boot process works on the system, then I
> have something to say about it, as it affects me, a Gentoo developer.
> 
> And that is how this thread started, I wanted to know what was the
> resolution of the council meeting with the very unclear and vague
> meeting minutes.  I have yet to get that answer, which is troubling.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h

You are the one claiming that this is our official fork. None of us are.

This will be an official Gentoo project when we make the announcement in
the next few days. That makes it one project of many. GLEP 0039 clearly
states how this works. If you are unhappy with GLEP 0039, then you
should discuss that with the council.


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-18  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20353.41193.129711.306663@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>
2012-04-08 22:04 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012 Greg KH
2012-04-08 23:28   ` Rich Freeman
2012-04-09 18:09     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-09 19:20       ` Zac Medico
2012-04-11  2:28         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-11  4:09           ` Zac Medico
2012-04-11  5:18             ` William Hubbs
2012-04-11 16:10               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-28 21:09                 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-04 16:36                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-05-04 16:47                     ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-04 17:24                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-11 14:13             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-11 19:57               ` Zac Medico
2012-04-22  2:43                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-22  2:53                   ` Rich Freeman
2012-04-22  5:28                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-22  6:00                       ` Mike Gilbert
2012-04-22  9:07                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2012-04-22  9:28                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-22 17:55                             ` Mike Gilbert
2012-04-22 18:13                               ` Zac Medico
2012-05-04 15:20                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-05-04 19:50                                   ` Zac Medico
2012-05-04 15:10                               ` Steven J Long
2012-04-22  9:11                         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: " Steven J Long
2012-04-23  1:25                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Walter Dnes
2012-04-23  6:04                         ` Zac Medico
2012-04-23 14:29                           ` Walter Dnes
2012-04-23  6:30                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabian Groffen
2012-05-04 14:50                         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] " Steven J Long
2012-05-05  1:05                           ` Greg KH
2012-05-08  1:40                             ` [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] Steven J Long
2012-05-08  2:09                               ` Richard Yao
2012-05-09 18:32                               ` Greg KH
2012-05-09 18:51                                 ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-05-09 22:36                                   ` Greg KH
2012-05-10  1:08                                     ` Patrick Lauer
2012-05-10  3:08                                       ` Rich Freeman
2012-05-10  4:34                                     ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-05-10 16:54                                       ` Olivier Crête
2012-05-14 18:48                                         ` Luca Barbato
2012-05-10 23:41                                       ` Alec Warner
2012-05-17  4:39                                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-05-10 11:44                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-05-10 14:39                                       ` Zac Medico
2012-05-12  0:39                                       ` Greg KH
2012-05-10 18:57                                     ` David Leverton
2012-05-10 19:22                                       ` Zac Medico
2012-05-10 19:30                                         ` David Leverton
2012-05-11  1:27                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-05-10 19:55                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Markos Chandras
2012-05-10 19:59                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-05-10 20:13                                       ` Michał Górny
2012-05-10 20:14                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-05-10 20:23                                           ` Michał Górny
2012-05-10 20:48                                     ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-05-11  0:59                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-05-11  2:53                                         ` Duncan
2012-05-13  2:24                                         ` Walter Dnes
     [not found]                                   ` <4bdd949a377d40eb85590870be440551@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu>
2012-11-18  7:54                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Richard Yao
2012-11-18  8:08                                       ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  8:10                                         ` Richard Yao [this message]
2012-11-18  8:19                                           ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  8:19                                             ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  8:27                                             ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  8:38                                               ` Pacho Ramos
2012-11-18  8:21                                         ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18  8:49                                           ` Samuli Suominen
2012-11-18 11:11                                           ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2012-11-18 12:26                                             ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-18 16:49                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-11-18 15:04                                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18 15:16                                               ` Samuli Suominen
2012-11-18 15:31                                                 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18 15:32                                                 ` Fabian Groffen
2012-11-18 15:34                                                 ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2012-11-18 15:42                                                   ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18 15:51                                                     ` Fabian Groffen
2012-11-19  8:20                                                       ` Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2012-11-19 12:14                                                         ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 13:08                                                         ` Fabian Groffen
2012-11-18 15:50                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2012-11-19 13:07                                                 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Tightly-coupled core distro Steven J. Long
2012-11-19 16:32                                                   ` Alec Warner
2012-11-19 16:52                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 16:54                                                       ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-27  8:11                                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2012-11-19 17:43                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Stuge
2012-11-19 18:16                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 18:33                                                       ` Peter Stuge
2012-11-18 15:43                                               ` [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
2012-11-18 15:47                                                 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18 15:54                                                   ` Fabian Groffen
2012-11-18 16:00                                                     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18 16:14                                                       ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-11-18 15:56                                                   ` Luca Barbato
2012-11-18 17:19                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-11-18 18:15                                                     ` Stelian Ionescu
2012-05-17  4:16                                 ` Steven J Long
2012-04-11 11:44           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012 Rich Freeman
2012-04-11 15:09             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-11 16:55               ` Rich Freeman
2012-04-22  3:30                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-04-10 18:45   ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2012-04-11  9:34     ` Ralph Sennhauser
2012-04-28 23:44     ` Luca Barbato
2012-04-29  6:44       ` Michał Górny
2012-04-29  7:04         ` Luca Barbato
2012-04-29 22:40           ` Zac Medico
2012-04-29 23:38             ` Luca Barbato

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