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From: Richard Yao <ryao@gentoo.org>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, klondike@gentoo.org,
	 "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org>,
	ulm@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng?  (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:26:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50A86381.7030901@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121118042804.GA3087@kroah.com>

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On 11/17/2012 11:28 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:06:38PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
>> On 11/17/2012 10:39 PM, Greg KH wrote:
>>> Anyway, I now see a _very_ dangerous commit in the "Copyright" branch
>>> that better not get merged into the tree, as it's wrong, and illegal
>>> under all countries that follow the "normal" body of Copyright Law.  It
>>> should be removed right now before someone gets into trouble, not the
>>> least of which would be the orginization that the copyright is now being
>>> attributed to.
>>>
>>> Come on people, this is basic copyright law, it's not something
>>> radically new.  It's something that _all_ software developers should
>>> know, either from school, or any company they have ever worked at.
>>>
>>> Please fix this now.
>>
>> klondike discussed the copyright branch changes with robbat2 before they
>> started and there was no problem at the time. We have retained all
>> copyright notices and looking at the branch, I find nothing objectionable.
> 
> Seriously?
> 
> Look at the comment I made on that commit for details, but here it is
> again:
> 
> You can not claim copyright on a file you did not do one of the two
> things:
>   - create yourself
>   - modify in a "major" manner
> 
> Adding a comment at the top saying it is part of the eudev project and
> covered under the LGPL2+ does not meet either of these requirements at
> all.
> 
> By merely importing a file into a new project, you can not claim
> copyright on it.  That's the law.  The fact that this was reviewed by
> someone makes me seriously wonder about the copyright policies of the
> Gentoo Foundation.
> 
> Also, you can not assign copyright to a third party, unless you have a
> copyright assignment form.  Do the developers doing this work have such
> a form assigned?  And in what country and state is that form valid for?
> Different countries, and states, have different laws here, and
> one-form-fits-all is not true anywhere.
> 
> So blindly adding a Gentoo Foundation copyright to _any_ file in this
> repo, that has not met one of the two above rules, is illegal, and
> grounds for opening the Gentoo Foundation up to big trouble.
> 
>> Would you mind joining us in IRC to discuss your concerns?
> 
> I don't do IRC anymore, sorry.  Email is the best way to reach me.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h

Thanks for clarifying that. It will be fixed before it goes into HEAD.


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-18  4:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20121106212816.GE82762@gentoo.org>
     [not found] ` <20121117190207.GY83592@gentoo.org>
2012-11-18  3:29   ` [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012) Greg KH
2012-11-18  3:39     ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  4:06       ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  4:28         ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-11-18  4:31           ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  4:36           ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  4:28         ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  4:26           ` Richard Yao [this message]
2012-11-18  4:38             ` Greg KH
2012-11-19 19:25           ` Petteri Räty
2012-11-18  5:08         ` Greg KH
2012-11-18 16:35       ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2012-11-18 16:59         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2012-11-18 23:25           ` Richard Yao
2012-11-19  0:30             ` Matt Turner
2012-11-19 19:40         ` Greg KH
2012-11-19 20:08           ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 22:27           ` Richard Yao
2012-11-19 23:22             ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-11-19 23:33               ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  4:02     ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  4:19       ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  4:25         ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  4:35           ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  5:00             ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  5:05               ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18  5:13                 ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  5:20                   ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18  5:26                     ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  5:31                       ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18  5:52                     ` Joshua Kinard
2012-11-18  5:59                       ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18  7:05                         ` Doug Goldstein
2012-11-18  7:12                           ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-18  5:35                   ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  5:39                     ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  5:19               ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  5:35                 ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18  6:49                   ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  7:01                     ` Doug Goldstein
2012-11-18  7:02                     ` Alec Warner
2012-11-18  7:57                       ` Greg KH
2012-11-18 13:38                         ` Kacper Kowalik
2012-11-18 16:14                           ` Rafael Goncalves Martins
2012-11-18 16:36                             ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-18 16:52                               ` Rafael Goncalves Martins
2012-11-18 17:32                                 ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-18 17:37                                   ` Rafael Goncalves Martins
2012-11-18 19:04                                     ` Rafael Goncalves Martins
2012-11-18 21:20                                       ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-18 23:28                                     ` Richard Yao
2012-11-18 18:51                                   ` Peter Stuge
2012-11-23  2:20                         ` Donnie Berkholz
2012-11-23 16:32                           ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  8:06                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-11-18  8:50                     ` Matt Turner
2012-11-18 11:14                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2012-11-18 15:40                         ` Duncan
2012-11-18 18:00                           ` Peter Stuge
2012-11-18 19:39                             ` Duncan
2012-11-18 20:57                               ` Joshua Kinard
2012-11-18  9:13                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Samuli Suominen
2012-11-18  9:48                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-11-18 10:59                     ` Anthony G. Basile
2012-11-18 17:22                     ` William Hubbs
2012-11-18 17:38                       ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-18 11:59               ` Wulf C. Krueger
2012-11-18  7:05     ` Walter Dnes
2012-11-18  7:25       ` Matt Turner
2012-11-18  7:51         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-19  1:13           ` Walter Dnes
2012-11-19  3:11             ` Greg KH
2012-11-19 16:47               ` Walter Dnes
2012-11-18  7:52       ` Greg KH
2012-11-18  7:54         ` Alec Warner
2012-11-19  1:50         ` Walter Dnes
2012-11-19  3:06           ` Greg KH
2012-11-19  3:38             ` Joshua Kinard
2012-11-19  3:42               ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-19  4:28                 ` Greg KH
2012-11-19  4:37                   ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-19  5:16                   ` Joshua Kinard
2012-11-19 14:39               ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 14:59                 ` William Hubbs
2012-11-19 15:40                   ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 16:08                   ` Samuli Suominen
2012-11-23 19:51                 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-11-19 16:30             ` Walter Dnes
2012-11-19 17:08               ` Greg KH
2012-11-19 17:19                 ` William Hubbs
2012-11-20  1:08                 ` Walter Dnes
2012-11-20 15:25                   ` Greg KH
2012-11-20 16:28                     ` Michael Mol
2012-11-20 19:24                       ` Markos Chandras
2012-11-20 19:09                     ` Walter Dnes
2012-11-18  9:29     ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-11-18 12:06     ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19  2:58       ` [gentoo-dev] Copyright issues (Was: udev-ng?) Greg KH
2012-11-19  3:29         ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19  4:30           ` Greg KH
2012-11-19 12:03             ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 17:06               ` Greg KH
2012-11-19 17:12                 ` Peter Stuge
2012-11-19 18:06                 ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 18:16                   ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-19 22:45                     ` Richard Yao
2012-11-19 22:53                       ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-19 22:56                       ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 19:36                   ` Greg KH
2012-11-19 18:23                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-11-19 18:35                   ` Peter Stuge
2012-11-19 18:44                   ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 18:50                     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-19 18:55                       ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 19:32                   ` Greg KH
2012-11-19  4:05         ` Richard Yao
2012-11-19  4:22           ` Greg KH
     [not found]             ` <50A9B3C0.1060202@gentoo.org>
2012-11-19  4:34               ` Greg KH
2012-11-19 12:41                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2012-11-19 16:10                   ` Peter Stuge
2012-11-19 16:33                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-11-19 19:20                       ` Petteri Räty
2012-11-19 17:02                   ` Greg KH
2012-11-19 17:12                     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-11-19 19:35                     ` Petteri Räty
2012-11-20  9:26                   ` [gentoo-dev] Copyright issues Ulrich Mueller
2012-11-20 13:37                     ` Anthony G. Basile
2012-11-20 13:40                     ` Ian Stakenvicius

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