From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFE51381F3 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFD9D21C002; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5A69E04E7 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (pool-173-77-245-118.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [173.77.245.118]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ryao) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D0EF933D883; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 04:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50A85DB8.9060608@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 23:02:00 -0500 From: Richard Yao User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.10) Gecko/20121107 Thunderbird/10.0.10 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org CC: Greg KH Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012) References: <20121106212816.GE82762@gentoo.org> <20121117190207.GY83592@gentoo.org> <20121118032922.GA2335@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20121118032922.GA2335@kroah.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig21319B0FEB27A7EE8F1C6A1A" X-Archives-Salt: d9b6406f-5385-48b5-a83d-790f3bbc98c0 X-Archives-Hash: 743407adf603055302d16fe222b124c2 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig21319B0FEB27A7EE8F1C6A1A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/17/2012 10:29 PM, Greg KH wrote: > I see an "entertaining" fork of udev on github at the moment (-ng, > really? What happens when someone wants to fork that, -ng-ng? Be a bi= t > more original in your naming please, good thing I never trademarked > "udev" all those years ago, maybe I still should...) That was a placeholder name. If you checked before you sent your email, you would see that we had settled on eudev. > But, along those lines, what is the goal of the fork? What are you > trying to attempt to do with a fork of udev that could not be > accomplished by: > - getting patches approved upstream > or: > - keeping a simple set of patches outside of the upstream tree and > applying them to each release The goal is to replace systemd as upstream for Gentoo Linux, its derivatives and any distribution not related to RedHat. > I understand the bizarre need of some people to want to build the udev > binary without the build-time dependencies that systemd requires, but > surely that is a set of simple Makefile patches, right? And is > something that small really worth ripping tons of code out of a working= > udev, causing major regressions on people's boxes (and yes, it is a > regression to slow my boot time down and cause hundreds of more > processes to be spawned before booting is finished.) See the following: https://github.com/gentoo/eudev/issues/3 --------------enig21319B0FEB27A7EE8F1C6A1A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQqF28AAoJECDuEZm+6ExkLjAQAKY1fWMYwM0rifPLC+cZ86sH LrpP2lliT0tUa1ghev03pB7Ni7AXNKfMSN+rT0eLwZ6K0V6952PTP5XwSupcFNFb Rv70ZuExFbb2+WC5Rll3z3d1lzmj8f6a0VpvnlIWiuM/Hi1RwaTFAgshUQvjOQ2L pbGUwh9G9Bv7y6ISsbDfoZwaSDWU8THB4gGcM3YFRBtiU+Q7PXJIRZNJRIIZANcE I9f6rsJ05zzvze71bcRRqS/oAAPoT/Iao9jgU8I3Svgo/JhF4I1qU5emyiCfZjy+ n6a9ygOi0R113PvBK3UmI1QHMVeNfQm2YmuSbbcSF8G0bMeNnVJCI9A+BB4qk03q aB32/PmlM/i62BpSDM4jevV3KbgokveKFM+ezqe3LzAENaJMdIxiEiNcAWWbHwsu U5Ud4ID5R27B7JiBhxm0jYXXMZ763AP6srY3Ckfr2gmczavpbF5BEKvks6yqcFVo DuY5KV5eAoBtTjJVjc5fojEsTTHLzlugQ/ZEEJ1CqtBpHM5bF3Vd6ab+7NIoxMbo sU2SfZFDCXoooWOsyl2fakG6z8cuaU73teaODLX2uSZxTdHyVZ+/Zuiy4Va4LLah XZgFMD3iNLTvgIgqIlYqWuUwtsMMgVAu9v7mDBFH+Lhuy88NsM0DTWNvKr8MQ/8b LcHPofqls/WYdEHiGpx/ =evR5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig21319B0FEB27A7EE8F1C6A1A--