Re: [gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog

[Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org>]

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On 31/10/12 12:15 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> On 31/10/12 17:39, Alexis Ballier wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:35:41 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
>> <axs@gentoo.org> wrote:
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>>> On 31/10/12 11:26 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:39:44 -0600 Ryan Hill 
>>>> <dirtyepic@gentoo.org> wrote: [...]
>>>>>> The file is pointless if not everyone is using it. I've 
>>>>>> offered to remove the file before, and I'm reoffering to
>>>>>> do so now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's pointy enough for most uses.  Let's keep it that way.
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to know what are those uses. Here are my
>>>> thoughts about changelogs:
>>>> 
>>>> We have cvs logs, cvsweb, etc. So what is the value added
>>>> from changelogs? Well, those logs are per-file as far as I
>>>> know, and since a new version of a package means a new
>>>> .ebuild file, keeping track of changes to packages is painful
>>>> without a changelog which is global to the whole package.
>>>> Even if we have all the needed information in the cvs log,
>>>> changelogs for packages are definitely useful. Now for
>>>> eclasses the situation is different: I want to know what has
>>>> recently changed in foo.eclass, what is the fastest way?
>>>> Search through a changelog file with dozens of absolutely 
>>>> unrelated information, or run cvs log/go to
>>>> sources.gentoo.org ? I tend to do the latter and find eclass
>>>> changelogs completely useless.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cool, you do, that's great.  This doesn't mean others don't use
>>> a different process tho, and since it *IS* there and is
>>> *SUPPOSED* to be filled, and it really doesn't hurt to run
>>> 'echangelog "${msg}" && cvs ci -m "${msg}"' , why not do it?
>> 
>> so that others are not encouraged to work sub-optimally :)
>> 
> 
> eclass/ handling should go to repoman and the automated ChangeLog 
> process, should be rather straight forward for knowing person.
> 

I agree, that'd make the whole thing easier.  But until repoman can
commit in eclass/ it shouldn't be that hard to just run echangelog ,
as "inefficient" as that may be. :)
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