From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F80D138010 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 41F9421C05B; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5CC21C072 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.132] (CPE002401f30b73-CM001cea3ddad8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.242.65.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: axs) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29A1433D7FE for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5091454D.7060701@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:35:41 -0400 From: Ian Stakenvicius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.10) Gecko/20121030 Thunderbird/10.0.10 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] On the usefulness of eclass changelog References: <20121030190839.A9A3D21600@flycatcher.gentoo.org> <20121030191725.GC809@gentoo.org> <20121030222444.694cd93d@pomiocik.lan> <5090468F.2030701@gentoo.org> <20121030183944.3b0a8652@gentoo.org> <20121031122605.581161e8@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20121031122605.581161e8@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: fe2bcb23-2c74-4d98-a370-5d4f91d045e7 X-Archives-Hash: c2f056a0bc146fe7503f1ed2569186df -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 31/10/12 11:26 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:39:44 -0600 Ryan Hill > wrote: [...] >>> The file is pointless if not everyone is using it. I've >>> offered to remove the file before, and I'm reoffering to do so >>> now. >> >> It's pointy enough for most uses. Let's keep it that way. > > I would like to know what are those uses. Here are my thoughts > about changelogs: > > We have cvs logs, cvsweb, etc. So what is the value added from > changelogs? Well, those logs are per-file as far as I know, and > since a new version of a package means a new .ebuild file, keeping > track of changes to packages is painful without a changelog which > is global to the whole package. Even if we have all the needed > information in the cvs log, changelogs for packages are definitely > useful. Now for eclasses the situation is different: I want to > know what has recently changed in foo.eclass, what is the fastest > way? Search through a changelog file with dozens of absolutely > unrelated information, or run cvs log/go to sources.gentoo.org ? I > tend to do the latter and find eclass changelogs completely > useless. > Cool, you do, that's great. This doesn't mean others don't use a different process tho, and since it *IS* there and is *SUPPOSED* to be filled, and it really doesn't hurt to run 'echangelog "${msg}" && cvs ci -m "${msg}"' , why not do it? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlCRRU0ACgkQ2ugaI38ACPCobwD+LZvXFPyfsGZ+484wnkv6fk8L oBazGyjti3n2nNAkM8IA/A5IvVNyOnd6U9lVH1B2dRA2HB1+i8Hac1aAKvs/EPF1 =F5eR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----