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From: "Caleb Tennis" <caleb@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 09:25:11 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50574.192.168.2.159.1199888711.squirrel@www.aei-tech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080109121309.GA14454@ferdyx.org>

> Why taking it against arch teams? How is that different from "certain
> maintainer not taking care of a bug that holds stabilization of certain
> package by some time measured in months" ? I'll tell you my answer: 'no
> difference at all'.

You are right, there's not much difference.  However, I brought up the topic because
I felt like this particular situation was a bit of a problem that needed to be
addressed.  Yours is also one that can/should potentially be addressed, and I advise
you to recommend the council discuss it as well.

My goal wasn't to point fingers or to call anyone lazy.  My goal was to address that
if development in this certain area has stagnated, how can those of us who it
affects continue to move forward?  This is simply an area that is "gray" and needs
to be discussed.  There are many other gray areas that need to be discussed too.

I understand we all have real lives and are volunteers.  But if there are areas that
we are responsible for and we aren't able to meet the needs/demands of the other
developers in those areas, it's only fair to let them continue moving forward.

I never even mentioned any specific arch in my original request, nor did I call any
developer out.  So please, nobody needs to take this personally.

Caleb

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Thread overview: 256+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-01  5:30 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Mike Frysinger
2008-01-02 21:49 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2008-01-03 13:02 ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-03 23:54   ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-04  0:01     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-04  0:40       ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-01-04  0:46         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-04  1:21           ` Ryan Hill
2008-01-04  1:27             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-04 11:23               ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-04 21:02                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-04 22:26                   ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-04 22:37                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-05  4:20                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-05  4:32                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-05 10:47                           ` Samuli Suominen
2008-01-06  0:32                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  1:33                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
2008-01-06  1:36                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  2:18                                   ` Martin Jackson
2008-01-06  2:24                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  2:32                                       ` Martin Jackson
2008-01-06  2:38                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  2:52                                           ` Martin Jackson
2008-01-06  2:58                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  3:35                                               ` Martin Jackson
2008-01-06  7:39                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06 23:35                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2008-01-06 23:45                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-07  0:22                                                       ` Christian Faulhammer
2008-01-07  0:44                                                         ` Petteri Räty
2008-01-09 14:37                                                         ` Christian Faulhammer
2008-01-09 14:42                                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-08  0:42                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Petteri Räty
2008-01-06  2:57                                           ` Martin Jackson
2008-01-05 14:03                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Caleb Tennis
2008-01-06  0:33                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  9:08                               ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-01-06  9:12                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06 13:09                                   ` Matthias Langer
2008-01-06 23:35                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-07  6:02                                       ` Matthias Langer
2008-01-08 22:08                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-06 17:36                               ` Ryan Hill
2008-01-06 23:34                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-08 22:04                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09  2:17                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09  2:38                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09  2:41                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09  2:44                                           ` Alec Warner
2008-01-09  2:47                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09  2:58                                               ` Ryan Hill
2008-01-09  2:59                                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 14:44                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 15:36                                                   ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-09 15:44                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 16:49                                                       ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-01-09 17:01                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 17:19                                                           ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-01-09 17:27                                                           ` Roy Marples
2008-01-09 18:16                                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 18:29                                                               ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-01-09 18:45                                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 19:06                                                                   ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-01-09 19:13                                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 19:47                                                                       ` Pierre-Yves Rofes
2008-01-09 20:33                                                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-10  7:08                                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-10 18:40                                                                       ` Jeroen Roovers
2008-01-10 19:49                                                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-10 20:04                                                                         ` Alexander Færøy
2008-01-10 20:11                                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-10 20:30                                                                           ` Chrissy Fullam
2008-01-09 19:27                                                               ` Roy Marples
2008-01-09 18:07                                                           ` Alec Warner
2008-01-09 18:11                                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:31                                                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 19:45                                                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2008-01-09 20:52                                                             ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-10  6:55                                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 18:50                                                   ` Petteri Räty
2008-01-09 18:56                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:36                                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 20:34                                                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 20:02                                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09  3:11                                               ` Matthias Langer
2008-01-09 14:46                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 15:30                                                   ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-09 14:58                                               ` Alec Warner
2008-01-09 15:11                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:14                                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 20:04                                       ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-09 17:56                                     ` Jan Kundrát
2008-01-09 20:30                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-08 21:57                                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-05 19:57                           ` Petteri Räty
2008-01-08 21:39                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-05  4:14                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-05 17:19                     ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-05 18:27                       ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-01-05 19:32                         ` Carsten Lohrke
2008-01-05 23:06                       ` Peter Volkov
2008-01-06  4:15                         ` Matthias Langer
2008-01-06  0:17                       ` Ryan Hill
2008-01-06  1:06                         ` Ryan Hill
2008-01-06  2:38                         ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-06 10:40                         ` Peter Volkov
2008-01-06  2:46                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06 12:04                         ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-06 13:33                           ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2008-01-06 14:01                             ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-09 12:13   ` [gentoo-dev] " Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 14:25     ` Caleb Tennis [this message]
2008-01-09 15:27       ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 17:11         ` Richard Freeman
2008-01-09 17:18           ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 17:18           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 19:54       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 21:10         ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-10  6:56         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:23     ` Peter Volkov
2008-01-10  3:10 ` [gentoo-dev] Of Mips and Devs [Was: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January] Kumba
2008-01-10  6:34   ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-10  8:01     ` Alin Năstac
2008-01-10  8:34       ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-11  5:34     ` Kumba
2008-01-11  7:04       ` Stuart Longland
2008-01-11  7:43         ` Alec Warner
2008-01-11  9:33       ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-10  7:12   ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2008-01-10 23:47   ` Ryan Hill
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-01 13:31 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Mike Frysinger
2010-01-01 23:05 ` Brian Harring
2010-01-02 18:21 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-01-07 22:59   ` Denis Dupeyron
2010-01-09 13:58     ` Pacho Ramos
2010-01-08  7:00   ` Mike Frysinger
2009-01-01  5:30 Mike Frysinger
2007-01-01  5:31 Mike Frysinger
2006-01-01  5:30 Mike Frysinger
2006-01-01 23:35 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-02  4:10   ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2006-01-03 16:05   ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-04 22:06     ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-04 22:37       ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-04 22:51         ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-06  5:15     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-01-02 18:14 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 18:33   ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-02 18:50     ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 19:03       ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-02 19:28         ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-02 19:42           ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-03 17:19           ` Simon Stelling
2006-01-03 17:28             ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 17:50               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-03 18:09                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 18:17               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 19:56                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 23:15                 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-05  3:58                 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05  3:57                   ` Greg KH
2006-01-05  4:31                     ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05  5:39                       ` Alec Warner
2006-01-05  6:00                         ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05  6:25                           ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-05 13:07                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 15:51                             ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 16:37                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 16:50                                 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 17:39                                 ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 13:31                           ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:33                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05  6:05                         ` Corey Shields
2006-01-05  6:13                           ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-01-05  6:49                           ` Brian Harring
2006-01-13 13:52                             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 13:18                           ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:22                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 13:58                               ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-01-05 13:52                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05  6:31                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 12:09                         ` Tom Martin
2006-01-05 12:24                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 14:40                             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-05 22:04                             ` Curtis Napier
2006-01-05 22:24                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 23:17                               ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-13 14:15                                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 12:51                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 14:22                         ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05 14:35                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 14:59                             ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 15:46                               ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-05 17:42                                 ` Michael Cummings
2006-01-05 19:30                                 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-06  1:09                                   ` Curtis Napier
2006-01-05 15:42                             ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-05 16:20                               ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-05 16:33                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 17:03                                   ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-13 14:28                                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-13 14:26                                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-05 16:37                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 17:38                               ` Michael Cummings
2006-01-05 14:47                           ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 20:09                       ` Aron Griffis
2006-01-13 14:32                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-01-06  1:03                       ` Greg KH
2006-01-06  4:23                         ` Philip Webb
2006-01-06  4:51                           ` Kurt Lieber
2006-01-06 10:10                           ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-05 12:36                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 12:49                       ` Dan Meltzer
2006-01-05 13:07                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 14:09                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 12:51                       ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-01-05 12:32                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 18:23               ` Simon Stelling
2006-01-03 19:59                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 18:12             ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-05  4:33               ` Andrew Muraco
2006-01-05 12:56                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-05 18:42                   ` Greg KH
2006-01-12 18:57                     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-01-02 19:33         ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 21:05           ` Chandler Carruth
2006-01-02 21:25             ` Andrew Muraco
2006-01-02 19:49         ` Grobian
2006-01-02 20:12           ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-02 20:46             ` Grobian
2006-01-02 21:03               ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 21:52                 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-03  4:41                   ` Greg KH
2006-01-03  5:35   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03  8:54   ` Thierry Carrez
2006-01-03 16:35   ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-03 20:09     ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-03 20:35       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-03 20:50         ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-03 22:18       ` Grant Goodyear
2006-01-03 17:21   ` Sven Vermeulen
2006-01-03 17:41     ` Sven Vermeulen
2006-01-05 17:21   ` Aron Griffis
2006-01-05 16:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-08  0:15 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08  0:35   ` Stuart Herbert
2006-01-08  2:56     ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-08 13:40     ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 14:01       ` Brian Harring
2006-01-08 14:49         ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08 14:18       ` Paweł Madej
2006-01-08 14:25       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-08  0:38   ` Brian Harring
2006-01-08 13:40     ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-08  2:57   ` Stephen Bennett

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