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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Unified DEPENDENCIES concept
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:28:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <504A58F8.8010003@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120907211436.38c16738@googlemail.com>

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On 07/09/12 04:14 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:08:53 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
> <axs@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> Bringing it back to the issue it's solving:
> 
>> Afaict, for migration:
> 
>> - - DEPEND changes to HDEPEND
> 
> If we're going by Chromium, AFAICS they're only making this change
> when they find they actually need it to get the resolver to give
> "the right answer", and otherwise leaving DEPEND as-is. This
> strikes me as being heavily in Doing It Wrong territory.
> 
>> - - the new DEPEND now will be used for things that are
>> *currently* in RDEPEND and DEPEND (so that things will work) but
>> are not actually run-time dependencies.  Said atoms will then be
>> removed from RDEPEND (and not be included in the new HDEPEND
>> either) as they aren't really supposed to be there in the first
>> place.
> 
> I'm not entirely sure that there are more than a handful of very 
> special cases that would be covered by the second point. Can
> anyone provide examples?
> 

Bug 263343 , the 'fontconfig' dep for some package i wasn't able to
find easily

Bug 317337 (original HDEPEND proposal) mentions the
x11-proto/xcb-proto dep for libxcb (and i assume anything else
depending on xcb-proto)

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-07 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-07 11:45 [gentoo-dev] Unified DEPENDENCIES concept Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 12:29 ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 12:36   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 14:23     ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 14:53       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 15:02         ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 15:07           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 15:16             ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 15:25               ` Wulf C. Krueger
2012-09-07 14:50 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-07 14:58   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 15:46 ` Alexis Ballier
2012-09-07 16:03   ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 16:11     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-07 16:28       ` Michael Mol
2012-09-07 16:34         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 16:40     ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2012-09-07 16:47       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 17:40     ` Alexis Ballier
2012-09-07 18:21       ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 19:59         ` Alexis Ballier
2012-09-07 20:10           ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 20:14             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-11  2:16               ` Brian Harring
2012-09-13 19:18                 ` Kent Fredric
2012-09-13 22:17                   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-15 11:06                     ` Kent Fredric
2012-09-15 20:33                       ` Brian Harring
2012-09-15 22:03                         ` Michał Górny
2012-09-16  1:20                           ` [gentoo-dev] example conversion of gentoo-x86 current deps to unified dependencies Brian Harring
2012-09-16  2:39                             ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-09-16  7:39                             ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-16 13:15                               ` Brian Harring
2012-09-18 22:51                                 ` Matt Turner
2012-09-19  4:22                                 ` Ben de Groot
2012-09-19 10:59                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-09-19 13:09                                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-09-19 13:16                                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-30 22:15                                         ` Brian Harring
2012-10-01  0:23                                           ` Duncan
2012-10-02 17:47                                           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-10-03  4:00                                             ` Ben de Groot
2012-10-07 14:09                                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2012-09-16  7:56                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2012-09-16 11:10                               ` Brian Harring
2012-09-16 11:21                                 ` Michał Górny
2012-09-16 11:49                                   ` Brian Harring
2012-09-16 12:02                                     ` Michał Górny
2012-09-16 13:38                                       ` Brian Harring
2012-09-07 16:10   ` [gentoo-dev] Unified DEPENDENCIES concept Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 16:53     ` Zac Medico
2012-09-07 16:58       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 17:02         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-07 17:40           ` Zac Medico
2012-09-07 17:58             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-07 18:18               ` Zac Medico
2012-09-07 18:23                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 18:23                 ` Zac Medico
2012-09-07 18:23               ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 18:31                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 18:46                   ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 18:52                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 19:11                       ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 19:13                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 19:21                           ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 19:25                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 20:07                               ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 20:15                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 20:08                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-07 20:14                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 20:28                           ` Ian Stakenvicius [this message]
2012-09-07 20:40                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-07 19:42                     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-09-07 17:31         ` Zac Medico
2012-09-07 16:12   ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2012-09-07 16:43     ` Michał Górny
2012-09-07 22:55 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-09-08  6:43   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-09-08 13:01     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-09-08  7:27   ` Michał Górny
2012-09-08  1:02 ` Patrick Lauer
2012-09-09  3:32 ` Matt Turner

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