From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C65313800E for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 08:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B46E9E0477; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 08:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45367E02FB for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 08:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.177.10.81] (212-226-41-132-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [212.226.41.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 27BBF1B4019 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 08:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50276335.2020806@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:03:01 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120706 Thunderbird/13.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5bf9831e-b8d9-4f37-9b0e-e8836fa82b72 X-Archives-Hash: 30579d986b931c147896c28d9cd52b2d On 08/07/2012 03:47 PM, Sylvain Alain wrote: > Hi everyone, for a couple of months now, I see on the list some of > activities about OpenRC been ported to FreeBSD or OpenRC to Debian and > other stuff related to SystemD. > > I have some basic questions about all that : > > 2. I saw on some lists that Gnome/Kde and Xfce plan to use some SystemD > API, so does it means that we will need to install SystemD aside of > OpenRC ? For Xfce it only means that xfce4-session will try to query credentials also from systemd, not ConsoleKit alone There are no plans of removing ConsoleKit support for Xfce wrt upstream anytime soon since Xfce is committed for long-term BSD support, and the Xfce development team includes developers, from eg. OpenBSD > 4. Finally, is there any reason why Gnome/Kde/Xfce wants to add deps > related to SystemD ? I don't understand why these desktops want to > depend on a specific Sysint.... || ( sys-auth/consolekit sys-apps/systemd ) or something can be done if the package tries to query both via DBUS calls As in, something needs to tell PolicyKit (polkit) that you are a local user and thus grant access to eg. USB removable devices