From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845E513800E for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B16BE087D; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94573E07C0 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:43:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (unknown [180.159.247.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: patrick) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EA49C1B4026 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50227C5A.20006@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:48:58 +0800 From: Patrick Lauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120401 Thunderbird/11.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Global Systemd USE Flag References: <20120808161551.425c8e62@pomiocik.lan> <20120808163359.305604e9@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: f37321d0-78fc-4250-b997-2b4b0722460f X-Archives-Hash: 0b689e45cef60fe1c6907f3d155ce7d8 On 08/08/12 22:35, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> You are right. In case users really intend to use that, they may be >> better using app-portage/install-mask, and: >> >> $ install-mask -a systemd >> >> which will add just the right path. > Still misses the point. USE flags were invented to deal with these > options. On a default install, which uses OpenRC, users shouldn't have > to then emerge an additional program to add more configuration in > order to have a clean system. > And while we're at it - can we *please* use the openrc useflag to have correct paths and binary names again? Just because upstream says we should be fedora doesn't mean we have to do it. Right now it's really frustrating to have systemd artifacts all over my system even when I explicitly ask for it to not be near it. Very rude. Very not Gentoo.