From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680C913800E for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45EE3E076C; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.viabit.com (mail2.viabit.com [65.246.80.16]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417B0E06D6 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.1.1.204] (unknown [65.213.236.244]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.viabit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3EA337AEB for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 16:29:42 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=orlitzky.com; s=mail2; t=1343852982; bh=2ERFN0aTWwGkuJberU3Vym6rEAe3DwI04NaKwy0nvhk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=wUMhUTbgJ313KIGCiHizBtGGs1sgyI9Z+4l2g7nO0HUD1i4zuJ7jBs5JFR/ygEvyX +3ABqRahaMUkI/iLcIOxD9YscQ4c7c6tS1Gkfd2fBx9nTMoZyQypBdTHsFGKH1h2IA TXeiDEba36HL20ENKA7nnvCrqzRY6w04S9vzptnU= Message-ID: <501991B6.7010603@orlitzky.com> Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:29:42 -0400 From: Michael Orlitzky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.6esrpre) Gecko/20120730 Thunderbird/10.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default References: <3146937.NEprMvEFLe@mephista> <5016AD71.5070602@gentoo.org> <201208012218.19190.dilfridge@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <201208012218.19190.dilfridge@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2a2ea95e-efb2-4a7a-921a-a4ef55527740 X-Archives-Hash: 3a47b96b4b7d85f573c01ba1dcc496a7 On 08/01/12 16:18, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >> >> If it turns out that C or POSIX is the most common response, we should >> then default the locale to en_US.UTF-8 if we really want to default to >> a UTF-8 setting. The reason being it makes sense to have the default >> locale set to the country of origin, which in our case is the United >> States. >> > > Given the number of Gentoo devs (especially on the desktop side where this > matters most) from other parts of the world, that's not really a valid > argument. In particular in cases as e.g. "Paper size setting", where basically > US stubbornness stands against the rest of the planet. > Every locale is wrong for somebody; the idea was that by taking a survey, you could make it wrong for the least amount of people (by default). If the majority of users use a stupid paper size, the best default is still whatever they use regardless of any personal preferences.