From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B829913800E for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF8A721C002; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60DBE0477 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaae1 with SMTP id e1so348809eaa.40 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:38:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n2OMptU7J8BwO+O3H0G2l3z1eW6AkalaqnEp/8DRIQk=; b=H8vok7+GrfkNZ9oHLPhmTQVjCZCGB/g098VF4lIuQLgostXejcAgQRvNhRvX+f5a/d +od7DL5m4GC7Hlgd+q8HdfBYW6MjlGtNxpE58PLxLShBAfeNeaMIxsddY9NukAipQMpU Vyl2V1zpTgq5WvcR1uj720O4IqSsZuab6jOTYOMzwn3ZFUh6Zgpi4GDAmHjsMRA/RsJr lmXPCv0o0T3apNN7Oq5euh2FB4De38Ghx+tGqfJ8+ZaBVBafHaIZld+aR8yXbCSWzkJd ARVqUBSWCDo2Yztj+xfUFSuZi9hRbyC5vxiXHfIHMjDCNPouyEYgraUkOieLswbsHWUf tPRA== Received: by 10.14.201.2 with SMTP id a2mr1770616eeo.10.1343378322862; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (reverse-241.fdn.fr. [80.67.176.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e43sm4189875eep.4.2012.07.27.01.38.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50125386.8030805@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:38:30 +0200 From: Cyprien Nicolas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120721 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default References: <3146937.NEprMvEFLe@mephista> <20488.35316.711787.711764@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20498.15988.225230.614853@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: <20498.15988.225230.614853@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5ce6336e-5d11-435e-be8c-3cea2ae573c8 X-Archives-Hash: 7ab6966c1a76e02ba1897ffd7190cd5b Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, Ben de Groot wrote: >> >> So let's upgrade to en_US.UTF-8, which is for most users more >> desirable than the current situation. Of course we will still advise >> them to set their desired locales in /etc/locale.gen. But at least >> they will start with a unicode environment, as expected anno 2012. > > As I had pointed out before [1], changing from POSIX to an en_US > locale will have undesirable side effects, like commas as thousands > separators in numbers (because of LC_NUMERIC). Also the defaults of > en_US for LC_MEASUREMENT and LC_PAPER are only useful in the U.S. For this very reason by system locale is en_IE.UTF-8. Still English but using Euro Monetary, Metric units, A4 paper, etc. It might suit needs for most European installs, but not for everyone. -- Cyprien / Fulax Gentoo Lisp Project contributor