From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SraYT-00034m-Ru for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:09:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8646E074B; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5508EE0653 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 19:59:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.145] (CPE002401f30b73-CM001cea3ddad8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.240.69.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: axs) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 493B41B4003 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 19:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50071595.7020605@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:59:17 -0400 From: Ian Stakenvicius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120625 Thunderbird/10.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Opinion against /usr merge References: <5005D70D.3060108@gentoo.org> <50063368.8080106@gentoo.org> <20120718101027.55dd00fe@pomiocik.lan> <5006B7A4.6010202@gentoo.org> <20120718161351.GA19044@serenity.o.westcall.spb.ru> <20120718184012.12446404@googlemail.com> <20120718195809.242f7d99@pomiocik.lan> <50071375.9090605@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 605d2439-a232-41e8-8851-7fe8c36dcafd X-Archives-Hash: 16c482621cd000b32ca768d16e5a6dbc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 18/07/12 03:55 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ian Stakenvicius > wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 >>=20 >> On 18/07/12 03:47 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s=20 >>> wrote: >>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Michael Mol >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> The real benefit is that it allows you to mount any >>>> partition, if the tools to mount it live in the same >>>> partition. >>>=20 >>> Certainly that's a benefit. >>>=20 >>=20 >> ...don't you mean, "if the tools to mount it live in the >> initramfs" ?? >>=20 >> if the partition isn't mounted I don't see how the initramfs >> will allow you to mount it using its own tools... >=20 > I think you're replying to Canek. I took it to mean that having an=20 > initramfs allows you to mount the very filesystems where you would=20 > _traditionally_ expect to find the tools. E.g., being able to mount > an encrypted /. >=20 Yeah i was.. i just wanted to re-emphasize the point that the tools to mount it need to be on the initramfs (in whatever version or form they were when the initramfs was built), and really have nothing to do with them (including their current and possibly more up-to-date version) living on said partition.. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlAHFZUACgkQ2ugaI38ACPAiMAD/eWHxvaZPu1ikYN9ZeClsEWnB pBDgfVPC0UTDeoUOVFcA+gKCmqa+lhs0x+arJhF7AZfWEbYb+jMK+bVxUVgfElR4 =3DO0O4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----