From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42CDA139694 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 03:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC0E2E0CBF; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 03:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout04.plus.net (avasout04.plus.net [212.159.14.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 417BEE0CB5 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 03:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.6.147] ([146.198.40.10]) by avasout04 with smtp id nf8f1u0030D95ga01f8g1B; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 03:08:40 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=Groywg9C c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=yn+RW+FPi/EeJkSCDbeReQ==:117 a=yn+RW+FPi/EeJkSCDbeReQ==:17 a=13zjGPudsaEWiJwPRgMA:9 a=WbPmnYzAfxEA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=xtxXYLxNAAAA:8 a=xaKOy_XjqoWuMxAZWX8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=BrUuO3_Ldtwqg12vlEYA:9 a=M63cl3G6PGJSSdOZ:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=R8IGzDsZ_Vj1UfOW710A:9 a=ONNS8QRKHyMA:10 a=xts0dhWdiJbonKbuqhAr:22 a=6kGIvZw6iX1k4Y-7sg4_:22 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <2225532.dXl5vgaOU9@pinacolada> <20170221095336.7e31d535@abudhabi.paradoxon.rec> <61ce2aa6-9e61-8323-9e52-de7a50ade493@iee.org> From: "M. J. Everitt" Openpgp: id=BA266E0525CFAB101523351B4C30334F93C22371 Message-ID: <4cb37ab6-ead0-9bf9-f722-f42976c96dff@iee.org> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 03:08:38 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GdRJbTCCColHSn8IAcND7kEHOSAxJngkB" X-Archives-Salt: 4edc1810-211a-439e-8147-00fd5f0ead70 X-Archives-Hash: ca301c199ef53f1e043088785a99fd4c This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --GdRJbTCCColHSn8IAcND7kEHOSAxJngkB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="GlFmFAuAHCNkpAxoafta5EtFf9wOOaTtk" From: "M. J. Everitt" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <4cb37ab6-ead0-9bf9-f722-f42976c96dff@iee.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print References: <2225532.dXl5vgaOU9@pinacolada> <20170221095336.7e31d535@abudhabi.paradoxon.rec> <61ce2aa6-9e61-8323-9e52-de7a50ade493@iee.org> In-Reply-To: --GlFmFAuAHCNkpAxoafta5EtFf9wOOaTtk Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------943C9643AB74B6410C057F30" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------943C9643AB74B6410C057F30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/02/17 02:48, Gordon Pettey wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 7:05 PM, M. J. Everitt > wrote: > > On 21/02/17 08:53, Lars Wendler wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:47:17 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > >> Hey all, > >> > >> 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. > >> > >> Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has= > >> absolutely nothing to do with network. > >> So, a new category "sys-print", emphasizing that it's hardware > >> drivers, (or "cups-drv"?) (or maybe "media-print"?) might make > sense. > > Like I said in IRC, I'm all in favor of this. "media-print" seems= > > reasonable as I don't consider printing related packages being > > system-relevant (and thus no sys-print). > > > > > Maybe we can shoot for "app-print" .. its not really a system packa= ge > any more than a networking one, nor a (multi-)media package per-se > (cue > bikeshed on what 'media' means) .. so perhaps just 'app-print' or > 'app-printing' .. I dunno .. > > > There is no requirement for category names to be x-y. Instead of > forcing a prefix-suffix pattern that doesn't really fit, just call it > "printing". Whilst I don't think there is anything specified in PMS/devmanual .. find me another category without X-Y pattern? I'm not sure about portage internals, but there could be some exploiting of the fact this is 'normally' the case .. I could, ofc, be mistaken ... --------------943C9643AB74B6410C057F30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22/02/17 02:48, Gordon Pettey wrote:
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 7:05 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j= =2Eeveritt@iee.org> wrote:
On 21/02/17 08:53, Lars Wendler wrote= :
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:47:17 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly.
>>
>> Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has
>> absolutely nothing to do with network.
>> So, a new category "sys-print", emphasizing that it's hardware
>> drivers, (or "cups-drv"?) (or maybe "media-print"?) might make sense.
> Like I said in IRC, I'm all in favor of this. "media-print" seems
> reasonable as I don't consider printing related packages being
> system-relevant (and thus no sys-print).
>
>
Maybe we can shoot for "app-print" .. its not really a system package
any more than a networking one, nor a (multi-)media package per-se (cue
bikeshed on what 'media' means) .. so perhaps just 'app-print' or
'app-printing' .. I dunno ..

There is no requirement for category names to be x-y. Instead of forcing a prefix-suffix pattern that doesn't really fit, just call it "printing".
Whilst I don't think there is anything specified in PMS/devmanual .. find me another category without X-Y pattern? I'm not sure about portage internals, but there could be some exploiting of the fact this is 'normally' the case ..

I could, ofc, be mistaken ...
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