From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ShRum-0003W7-Lf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:54:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 924E5E08C6; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E18BE07CA for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.130] (dynamic-adsl-84-220-164-179.clienti.tiscali.it [84.220.164.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lu_zero) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E7D51B400A for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4FE23805.50106@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:52:21 +0200 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120529 Thunderbird/12.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 References: <4FE231BA.6020404@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4FE231BA.6020404@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 89dca5f9-cd32-4b69-98cc-89543282a0bd X-Archives-Hash: 1ca2dd54c1a5e5cfa77c963ae0e34d7d On 06/20/2012 10:25 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > Here is my wishlist for EAPI 5: > > Multilib (and/or multiarch) support > Automated epatch_user support > Parallel make checks > POSIX Shell compliance > > Here are some explanations: > > Multilib (and/or multiarch) support > The current binaries cause a great deal of pain, particularly when a > user does not want to upgrade something. I had this problem with WINE > and glibc because I wanted to avoid the reverse memcpy() fiasco on my > systems. This situation would have been avoided entirely if the package > manager supported multilib. > > Automated epatch_user support > Users should be able to test patches without modifying their ebuilds. > This also saves developer time because we don't need to navigate the > portage tree (or an overlay), make a change and test it. We could just > dump the patch in the appropriate directory and build. > > Parallel make checks > As it stands, `make check` is so slow that few people actually run it > and QA suffers as a result. We have the ability to do parallel checks, > but we need to explicitly put `emake check` into the ebuild and use > autoconf 1.12 to get that. It would be best if this behavior were the > default, not the exception. > > POSIX Shell compliance > There has been a great deal of work done to give the user full control > of what is on his system and there is more that we can do there. In > particular, I think a lean Gentoo Linux system should be able to use > busybox sh and nothing else. That requires POSIX shell compliance. > OpenRC init scripts support this and the configure scripts support this. > The few exceptions are bugs that are addressed by the Gentoo BSD developers. > As such, I think we should make EAPI=5 use POSIX shell by default. If > an ebuild requires bash, we can allow the ebuild to declare that (e.g. > WANT_SH=bash), but that should be the exception and not the rule. It is more likely to succeed either adding to busybox the missing bits of bash we use or forking bash (so eventually it could be developed on a source repo) and making it lean and fast for our specific purposes. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero