From: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:52:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FE23805.50106@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FE231BA.6020404@gentoo.org>
On 06/20/2012 10:25 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
> Here is my wishlist for EAPI 5:
>
> Multilib (and/or multiarch) support
> Automated epatch_user support
> Parallel make checks
> POSIX Shell compliance
>
> Here are some explanations:
>
> Multilib (and/or multiarch) support
> The current binaries cause a great deal of pain, particularly when a
> user does not want to upgrade something. I had this problem with WINE
> and glibc because I wanted to avoid the reverse memcpy() fiasco on my
> systems. This situation would have been avoided entirely if the package
> manager supported multilib.
>
> Automated epatch_user support
> Users should be able to test patches without modifying their ebuilds.
> This also saves developer time because we don't need to navigate the
> portage tree (or an overlay), make a change and test it. We could just
> dump the patch in the appropriate directory and build.
>
> Parallel make checks
> As it stands, `make check` is so slow that few people actually run it
> and QA suffers as a result. We have the ability to do parallel checks,
> but we need to explicitly put `emake check` into the ebuild and use
> autoconf 1.12 to get that. It would be best if this behavior were the
> default, not the exception.
>
> POSIX Shell compliance
> There has been a great deal of work done to give the user full control
> of what is on his system and there is more that we can do there. In
> particular, I think a lean Gentoo Linux system should be able to use
> busybox sh and nothing else. That requires POSIX shell compliance.
> OpenRC init scripts support this and the configure scripts support this.
> The few exceptions are bugs that are addressed by the Gentoo BSD developers.
> As such, I think we should make EAPI=5 use POSIX shell by default. If
> an ebuild requires bash, we can allow the ebuild to declare that (e.g.
> WANT_SH=bash), but that should be the exception and not the rule.
It is more likely to succeed either adding to busybox the missing bits
of bash we use or forking bash (so eventually it could be developed on a
source repo) and making it lean and fast for our specific purposes.
lu
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Luca Barbato
Gentoo/linux
http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero
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2012-06-20 20:25 [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:50 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:02 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:10 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:05 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:34 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-21 8:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-21 9:23 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22 0:38 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22 5:30 ` Duncan
2012-06-22 5:55 ` Michał Górny
2012-06-22 6:20 ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-20 21:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Justin
2012-06-21 6:08 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 7:00 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 7:25 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 7:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 7:53 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 9:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 9:53 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 10:24 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:30 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:05 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 11:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:38 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:52 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:16 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:11 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:33 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-23 10:43 ` Duncan
2012-06-23 10:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:12 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23 23:09 ` Duncan
2012-06-21 9:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2012-06-21 12:04 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23 8:19 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 11:15 ` Patrick Lauer
2012-06-21 11:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 8:01 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 12:11 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 13:13 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 13:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 20:26 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 22:46 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-29 5:27 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-29 5:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-21 6:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 7:24 ` justin
2012-06-21 12:14 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:39 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-06-20 20:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:51 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-29 5:20 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-20 20:52 ` Luca Barbato [this message]
2012-06-20 21:33 ` Alec Warner
2012-06-21 9:42 ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-29 5:25 ` Mike Frysinger
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