From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SfW5C-00078z-3K for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:57:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 313A421C038; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680E7E07A1 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F9D20941 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:55:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=binarywings.net; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=zGyA5jiHJ7YWdkLVsEU4W8gH YIQ=; b=kcMEbd9jrJ8OepB/FS7drfrzVu3rHg8BT46FdiTTFgyJkqnDwKP+N/gr +NJjX1nyw8S4X2JQncQZJ/wOpIVrZ4KbcwbqNt9TQMEC2IbNd1KfpieoeN2vNbXb 4yfAF+yoEqL9WuzLgxedifKWm0IXouE8Sbw33y9ZVEDdd4v2AX8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=zGyA 5jiHJ7YWdkLVsEU4W8gHYIQ=; b=bCP/kFRQpHkF8hCVeu9cV8lGfUnv/W72hOYU AmECSksCYKI3aXh9RacSLBUW/1elL7cePRbG0a9BSW/VPNXYsgzLB1ViVEUIhy74 uEH1uYpO+l6aVdCySA/TikhytHXi1sfJz7KsrBWmoUMM7+IL7bOtRIEm6F5BerCM QwiH6bk= X-Sasl-enc: 3rsDmNqBtQ18HDt7v356/TFR5HQansQB/2io5/8lfrW+ 1339764954 Received: from [192.168.5.18] (unknown [83.169.5.6]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 09C0D8E0146 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4FDB30D7.6010702@binarywings.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:55:51 +0200 From: Florian Philipp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4) Gecko/20120602 Thunderbird/10.0.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo References: <20120615042810.GA9480@kroah.com> <4FDAEA24.3010303@binarywings.net> <20120615122800.GB22231@waltdnes.org> In-Reply-To: <20120615122800.GB22231@waltdnes.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF8CDA1BAA2F1A4F26AF81D92" X-Archives-Salt: f4f4cc9b-af42-4f8c-a85a-754c53101d5e X-Archives-Hash: 4507b23393451aab88f62abcfc4a5a55 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF8CDA1BAA2F1A4F26AF81D92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 15.06.2012 14:28, schrieb Walter Dnes: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 09:54:12AM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote >=20 >> I guess anti-trust is not an issue since MS is not even close to havin= g >> a monopoly in ARM. >=20 > Will you be able to get an ARM machine without their UEFI? If MS > ever gets huge in the ARM arena, and 95% of ARM cpus go into Windows > machines, how many companies will make cpus for the remaining 5%. > Remember how MS strongarmed OEMs into a "Windows tax"? >=20 When MS gets a strong hold in ARM, they will have to face the same antitrust measures they face on x86 and their policy will likely have to change. I don't say its a nice outlook. The whole antitrust system is reactive and takes years to have any effect. But until then (if it ever happens)? Support other big players in ARM, don't buy Nokia/Windows phones, hope for the best. The usual ... Regards, Florian Philipp --------------enigF8CDA1BAA2F1A4F26AF81D92 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/bMNcACgkQqs4uOUlOuU8whQCeN3RPvNNTBmcHEUuE8aIyqHPK JYoAni/nMNPq4mSVjbSgf0KfTsY9gv7Q =gW4u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF8CDA1BAA2F1A4F26AF81D92--