From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SRaZZ-00072A-PA for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 02:54:46 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 19C4EE08DD; Tue, 8 May 2012 02:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA94E08D2 for ; Tue, 8 May 2012 02:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.253.112] (64-60-118-178.static-ip.telepacific.net [64.60.118.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lu_zero) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A9881B4013 for ; Tue, 8 May 2012 02:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4FA88AD5.6070409@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 19:54:13 -0700 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120413 Thunderbird/11.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code References: <4F9E44D0.70002@linx.net> <201205031918.48928.vapier@gentoo.org> <4FA32795.6000809@gentoo.org> <201205032122.12231.vapier@gentoo.org> <4FA41999.1030207@gentoo.org> <20120505010205.GC22763@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20120505010205.GC22763@kroah.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c1e908bc-d9de-4cf6-8a63-1b428e2c5379 X-Archives-Hash: db594b1457784de15040a161eb846430 On 04/05/12 18:02, Greg KH wrote: > When was the last time dbus crashed on you? Last time I used with bluez? I think about few months ago, I hadn't time to debug the issue and I tend not to use stuff I known broken. I know that's a chicken egg issue =| I'm not sure if connman hanging randomly is related to dbus or connman itself, again I hadn't had time to check what's exactly wrong. > And what would you consider "reliable" enough for "core services"? No dependency beside libc. > dbus > has proven itself over _many_ years to handle all of the issues that > something like this requires very well. It's a non-trivial thing to > implement and the authors of it have done a very good job, after > learning how to do it from other failed attempts at the same thing. Yet it crashes in some situations. My fault for not helping debugging them I guess. Again, I had something more interesting to do. > And what are you going to do when dbus moves into the kernel itself > (hint, it will be there soon)? Disabling it if I don't need it, as everybody in the world does disable the posix message queues? > How are you going to not use it then? I guess freebsd is still a supported platform for enlightenment and all the programs I use. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero