[gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Samuli Suominen]

# Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (22 Apr 2012)
# One of the last packages still using the obsolete pyxml package
# Masked for removal in 30 days wrt bug 367739
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# Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (22 Apr 2012)
# Masked for removal in 30 days for using the obsolete xulrunner
# package wrt #412875 and #403415
app-text/chmsee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Michael Weber]

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According to upstreams homepage [1],
the current tagged v1.99.09 does support xulrunner 11.0.

@dirtyepic: Any chance to bump the version in portage?
I can take a look (and grab this package).

Is there any state-of-the-art(tm) alternative to read .chm ebooks? I
wouldn't want to loose this possibility.

Thanks,

   Michael

[1] http://code.google.com/p/chmsee/

On 04/22/2012 08:21 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (22 Apr 2012) # One of the
> last packages still using the obsolete pyxml package # Masked for
> removal in 30 days wrt bug 367739 
> <app-pda/libopensync-plugin-google-calendar-0.39
> 
> # Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> (22 Apr 2012) # Masked for
> removal in 30 days for using the obsolete xulrunner # package wrt
> #412875 and #403415 app-text/chmsee
> 


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Ben]

On 28 April 2012 18:17, Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Is there any state-of-the-art(tm) alternative to read .chm ebooks? I
> wouldn't want to loose this possibility.

app-text/kchmviewer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Michał Górny]

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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:17:55 +0200
Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Is there any state-of-the-art(tm) alternative to read .chm ebooks? I
> wouldn't want to loose this possibility.

The one and only FBReader?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Samuli Suominen]

On 04/28/2012 01:17 PM, Michael Weber wrote:
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> According to upstreams homepage [1],
> the current tagged v1.99.09 does support xulrunner 11.0.

There is no such thing as "separate" Xulrunner 11.0.

There is Firefox 11.0 but upstream stopped splitting it from Firefox and 
our Firefox package doesn't ship with pkg-config files for it.

So chmsee upstream very much failed... He should switch to something 
else, like webkit-gtk or gtkhtml.

- Samuli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Pacho Ramos]

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El dom, 29-04-2012 a las 13:54 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió:
> On 04/28/2012 01:17 PM, Michael Weber wrote:
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> > According to upstreams homepage [1],
> > the current tagged v1.99.09 does support xulrunner 11.0.
> 
> There is no such thing as "separate" Xulrunner 11.0.
> 
> There is Firefox 11.0 but upstream stopped splitting it from Firefox and 
> our Firefox package doesn't ship with pkg-config files for it.
> 
> So chmsee upstream very much failed... He should switch to something 
> else, like webkit-gtk or gtkhtml.
> 
> - Samuli
> 
> 

The problem is that looks like other major distributions are still
providing xulrunner (from firefox):
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=xulrunner.git;a=tree
http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/src-oss/suse/src/xulrunner-12.0-1.1.src.rpm
http://packages.debian.org/sid/xulrunner-10.0



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Samuli Suominen]

On 04/29/2012 02:42 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El dom, 29-04-2012 a las 13:54 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió:
>> On 04/28/2012 01:17 PM, Michael Weber wrote:
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>>> Hash: SHA256
>>>
>>> According to upstreams homepage [1],
>>> the current tagged v1.99.09 does support xulrunner 11.0.
>>
>> There is no such thing as "separate" Xulrunner 11.0.
>>
>> There is Firefox 11.0 but upstream stopped splitting it from Firefox and
>> our Firefox package doesn't ship with pkg-config files for it.
>>
>> So chmsee upstream very much failed... He should switch to something
>> else, like webkit-gtk or gtkhtml.
>>
>> - Samuli
>>
>>
>
> The problem is that looks like other major distributions are still
> providing xulrunner (from firefox):
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=xulrunner.git;a=tree
> http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/src-oss/suse/src/xulrunner-12.0-1.1.src.rpm
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/xulrunner-10.0
>
>

The answer I got from Gentoo's Mozilla Team when I proposed bumping it 
to latest from the Firefox tarball was that "use npapi-sdk or 
spidermonkey instead".

Some which have needed more than just npapi-sdk or spidermonkey have 
happily migrated to gtkhtml, or webkit-gtk.

So I don't think it really makes sense to package and **maintain** 
something upstream doesn't support, therefore I'm agreeing with the 
Gentoo's Mozilla Team decision on this.
So no xulrunner anymore, even if that means losing 'chmsee' and 'kiwix'.

- Samuli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Stelian Ionescu]

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On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 22:00 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
[...]
> The answer I got from Gentoo's Mozilla Team when I proposed bumping it 
> to latest from the Firefox tarball was that "use npapi-sdk or 
> spidermonkey instead".
> 
> Some which have needed more than just npapi-sdk or spidermonkey have 
> happily migrated to gtkhtml, or webkit-gtk.
> 
> So I don't think it really makes sense to package and **maintain** 
> something upstream doesn't support, therefore I'm agreeing with the 
> Gentoo's Mozilla Team decision on this.
> So no xulrunner anymore, even if that means losing 'chmsee' and 'kiwix'.

Upstream doesn't support it, but Debian, Fedora, openSuse and other
distros do so the maintenance work would be shared

-- 
Stelian Ionescu a.k.a. fe[nl]ix
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.
http://common-lisp.net/project/iolib


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Samuli Suominen]

On 04/30/2012 10:27 PM, Stelian Ionescu wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 22:00 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> [...]
>> The answer I got from Gentoo's Mozilla Team when I proposed bumping it
>> to latest from the Firefox tarball was that "use npapi-sdk or
>> spidermonkey instead".
>>
>> Some which have needed more than just npapi-sdk or spidermonkey have
>> happily migrated to gtkhtml, or webkit-gtk.
>>
>> So I don't think it really makes sense to package and **maintain**
>> something upstream doesn't support, therefore I'm agreeing with the
>> Gentoo's Mozilla Team decision on this.
>> So no xulrunner anymore, even if that means losing 'chmsee' and 'kiwix'.
>
> Upstream doesn't support it, but Debian, Fedora, openSuse and other
> distros do so the maintenance work would be shared
>

Debian, Fedora, and OpenSUSE as non-rolling distributions need to keep 
Firefox up-to-date for security.
I suspect this is the main reason they have ended up rolling this type 
of xulrunner package. (For backward compat.)
We don't really have that "problem", as we can stabilize things much 
faster, and phase out xulrunner and it's consumers much faster.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Ryan Hill]

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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:17:55 +0200
Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org> wrote:

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> According to upstreams homepage [1],
> the current tagged v1.99.09 does support xulrunner 11.0.
> 
> @dirtyepic: Any chance to bump the version in portage?
> I can take a look (and grab this package).

From the bug report it sounded like xulrunner is going away completely.
 
> Is there any state-of-the-art(tm) alternative to read .chm ebooks? I
> wouldn't want to loose this possibility.

I also maintain kchmviewer and xchm and I think there are a couple other
non-dedicated readers that support it. Are there any features chmsee has that
these are missing? I added chmsee to replace gnochm but I don't think I've
ever used it.  I use xchm for my collection. It's tech books and manuals
though, nothing too extravagant. It doesn't release often but upstream is
responsive.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrite app-text/chmsee. Semi-lastrite libopensync-plugin-google-calendar.

[Michael Weber]

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On 05/03/2012 05:39 AM, Ryan Hill wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:17:55 +0200 Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
>> Is there any state-of-the-art(tm) alternative to read .chm
>> ebooks? I wouldn't want to loose this possibility.
> 
> I also maintain kchmviewer and xchm and I think there are a couple
> other non-dedicated readers that support it. Are there any features
> chmsee has that these are missing? I added chmsee to replace gnochm
> but I don't think I've ever used it.  I use xchm for my collection.
> It's tech books and manuals though, nothing too extravagant. It
> doesn't release often but upstream is responsive.
xchm looks good, thanks for the hint.


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