From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SOdhn-0004sc-6m for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:39:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05B1DE07FA; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 629B4E07B7 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (cpe-76-95-212-76.socal.res.rr.com [76.95.212.76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lu_zero) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B71961B4004 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F9DD0E7.90403@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:38:15 -0700 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120413 Thunderbird/11.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012 References: <20353.41193.129711.306663@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120408220422.GA26440@kroah.com> <20120410184504.GB8504@linux1> <4F9C80F9.7040809@gentoo.org> <20120429084458.66df2a49@pomiocik.lan> <4F9CE7E9.3080806@gentoo.org> <4F9DC373.1050407@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4F9DC373.1050407@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7911180d-3152-413c-b08f-70b05f0c901f X-Archives-Hash: 5cd5d04ecfe5faf75fa1b5a1c62f70a3 On 29/04/12 15:40, Zac Medico wrote: > Maybe it's reasonable for the initramfs to utilize a config file from > /etc of the future root filesystem, but having in depend on files from > the future /usr seems like a strange idea. Wouldn't it make more sense > to bundle all dependencies into the initramfs, so that it's mostly > self-contained, rather than have it be dependent on files from the > future root filesystem (or future /usr)? Well it is a bit unreasonable even rely on foreign /etc. The root problem is that what you want to use for early boot should not have huge deps and that assumption fails for a number of reasons, I guess mostly due the fact who writes some software doesn't expect it to be run on early boot =\ lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero