From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SOOBo-0004jf-VE for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:05:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33093E06D7; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C71DE0683 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (cpe-76-95-212-76.socal.res.rr.com [76.95.212.76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lu_zero) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 156B51B4003; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F9CE7E9.3080806@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:04:09 -0700 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120413 Thunderbird/11.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= CC: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012 References: <20353.41193.129711.306663@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120408220422.GA26440@kroah.com> <20120410184504.GB8504@linux1> <4F9C80F9.7040809@gentoo.org> <20120429084458.66df2a49@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <20120429084458.66df2a49@pomiocik.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 120a5931-cd8a-433d-b8da-f95c61844d1c X-Archives-Hash: b0ad7f7b8c03555dc37f7a52099721b1 On 28/04/12 23:44, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > I have already opened bugs for many of them. But the list will increase > in time, and we'll either move a lot of libraries to /lib* or decide to > go the other way. repeat after me EARLY BOOT, as in initramfs. In initramfs you don't have /usr with everything there because you are supposed to mount it. If you need something (e.g. a mount helper using libs living somewhere) you need to put it there, if you don't have a way to be aware of which is where then you'll have users experiencing problems. The proper way to fix it is either fix the programs or find replacement that have less or no dependencies. > Did someone mentioned mentioning two cross-linked program/data trees > (well, three or four in our case) with fuzzy classification rules is > against KISS? Enumerate them, I'm sick of vague problems. lu --=20 Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero