From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SE22o-0003yl-Hr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:24:54 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C858E0DCC; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9D7E0F8D for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.26.5] (ip98-164-193-252.oc.oc.cox.net [98.164.193.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zmedico) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C3F971B402A for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F773A00.6030805@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:08:16 -0700 From: Zac Medico User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120325 Thunderbird/11.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Happy 10th birthday (in advance) References: <20120330150041.c3f7684c.axel@james-b.ch> <4F75B45F.2050108@gentoo.org> <4F76226B.1020507@gentoo.org> <4F762BCF.9010204@cs.stonybrook.edu> <20120331085622.5650ca62@googlemail.com> <20120331105253.4a00ebcc@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 9de434a2-532e-403c-a093-b70e15bb11c4 X-Archives-Hash: 656914e8d9c3e9fa6f0e8aca3ae1335b On 03/31/2012 04:49 AM, Duncan wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:52:53 +0100 as excerpted: > >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander >> wrote: >>> @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it >>> should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production >>> boxes for years without any issues :) >> >> ...and here we see the problem. You think that "I haven't noticed it >> break" means "it works". > > Funny how familiar that argument looks... aka... > > A separate /usr is already broken, you just don't know it yet. For separate /usr, there's a relatively simple solution, which is to mount /usr with an initramfs. For preserve-libs, there is no such a simple solution. Much like separate-/usr-without-initramfs, preserve-libs does not work correctly unless lots of different pieces of software behave cooperatively. -- Thanks, Zac