From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S8AeG-0006yz-Kz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:23:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBEE3E0C3D; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E71E0C36 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lp081i0071ZMdJ4A9pNiNY; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:22:42 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.13] ([76.106.69.86]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lpNg1i01W1rgsis8cpNhg5; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:22:42 +0000 Message-ID: <4F61ED10.60400@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:22:24 -0400 From: Joshua Kinard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Thunderbird/10.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! References: <20120311173355.GB6599@linux1> <4F5EA152.80604@gentoo.org> <4F5FE34A.4030609@gentoo.org> <4F6091CE.1050009@gentoo.org> <20120314144115.GA30606@kroah.com> <20120314145144.GC3200@ca.inter.net> <20120314150431.GA2033@kroah.com> <20120314150827.53dc8336@googlemail.com> <20120314152209.GA2157@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF0D57946A17A9BE6EE4A48CC" X-Archives-Salt: 5e44178c-7a4b-415d-9485-5dfbb319bae8 X-Archives-Hash: f63e1d164b197c57a56eadbac0b7121f This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF0D57946A17A9BE6EE4A48CC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/14/2012 12:28, Matthew Summers wrote: >=20 > Gentoo provides a solution with genkernel, dracut provides a solution, > even the linux kernel itself provides a solution (in my view the > easiest solution at that). The kernel doesn't appear to create the networking interfaces, though. CONFIG_DEVTMPFS is only going to handle things that physically exist with= in /dev, of which, ethernet devices have always been excluded. If that can = get fixed in some fashion, then devtmpfs pretty much does make this a non-iss= ue. > I just wanted to drop this simple fact in there. This has been coming > for several years now AND the linux kernel has been using an initramfs > for every boot, every time for a long time now, all 2.6 and up as I > understand it. If the initramfs is empty, well the kernel is smart > enough to fall back on "legacy" boot process. initramfs was introduced in 2.6.10, and prior to that, only a handful of architectures even supported a built-in initrd (MIPS was one, and it wasn= 't very pretty or functional). I believe other distros required the bootloa= der to pass the initrd to them somehow, but having never used an initrd in th= at fashion, I don't know for certain. But yes, if you enable CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC, you're essentially turning o= n (or utilizing) an initramfs accessible via /proc. --=20 Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS kumba@gentoo.org 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. A= nd our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-bet= ween." --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic --------------enigF0D57946A17A9BE6EE4A48CC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPYe0QAAoJENsjoH7SXZXjgC0P/1skmUKkwaGdGIGFsEKVXKC/ RFUqrW2+cikKbQe2LHYMOCMaoGZI30S7xJktfnv93MSuAIJCvdG4vOY0BdyoTkKt jtDdcwNyrtMewBFjs1fOp8mkjBsA2Ym5LDo5Qw21KB+e+IiHjTRqxPNaQwKDfy5G T6boAYMVQW4Efc4CyTvI2wcuvTNzHKkfKxWphK0aq7eVtmSmKjphMEFTISEp7OLb JNs5oGCxEhHpEuMwkuOUI2WaW8h+KAF9DwRrjc1CSY8v6mLP2Alt3VOm9AHy6Q9T WOVUZo5h5V9AhZD+oYugFLHaZ3xlaksyGCUpgz9FjLf8XmF86M/ZcZ8B09c2xBSY U2htD7uXHBcCaRqMbp0WhzLdvExccUZRRuMGSgm/lnW83CjX/iQZtAbEA91cSi3a LWPGU2KNXtnof90F3d4q396QKEi+U66+QL6rnrPeCX5d7bsEIuF4MDKt0QQzKWos i6CjiWVnxAyXofy8JcDWOfPInwR6PoKz4LuYs8A4oYDeHfskzffWKmknxEy8T9NX 1Ghhfj6RyMx+NO307ZHE1VVuO0t6Py+sXJNsH1qoBZ2+nxWXti3EnA9Ai6XUd68l 5NLOTpvkXlR9Ejy9jxBi3oN+HWzNsnyZKQu9ljYLVI6Y0ayw8sa10L6euAUm3rrg oXEk/BdkvemMA3qmpfhh =+Wzv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF0D57946A17A9BE6EE4A48CC--