From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S7xdY-0008IO-Ch for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 23:29:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10F10E08C7; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 23:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edge2.cs.stonybrook.edu (edge2.cs.stonybrook.edu [130.245.9.211]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382F4E087B for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 23:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu (130.245.9.206) by edge2.cs.stonybrook.edu (130.245.9.211) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:30:03 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (72.89.250.133) by hubcas1.cs.stonybrook.edu (130.245.9.212) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:29:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4F61294B.9040101@cs.stonybrook.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:27:07 -0400 From: Richard Yao User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120301 Thunderbird/10.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg KH CC: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! References: <20120314150827.53dc8336@googlemail.com> <20120314152209.GA2157@kroah.com> <4F60D585.4050206@gentoo.org> <4F60E9C1.7050600@gentoo.org> <20120314210456.GB11179@kroah.com> <4F611E09.1040602@cs.stonybrook.edu> <20120314224916.GA12279@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20120314224916.GA12279@kroah.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig84DB9AB8A839937E9C945295" X-Originating-IP: [72.89.250.133] X-Archives-Salt: 6ae19abf-e166-4fd9-b6c0-52faec2a445d X-Archives-Hash: 2f255af7e0795fab8cdb9fdc95767739 --------------enig84DB9AB8A839937E9C945295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/14/12 18:49, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 06:39:05PM -0400, Richard Yao wrote: >> With that said, I have a few questions: >> >> 1. Why does no one mention the enterprise use case at all? >=20 > It has been pointed out before, why constantly repeat ourselves. Simple. No one has documented it. A webpage that makes a few vague references to "enterprise use" does not count as documentation. I happened to figure it out when trying to rationalize why anyone would want this, but this is hardly obvious to those that imagine a computer as a self-sufficient single disk system. >> 2. Why not make rootfs a NFS mount with a unionfs at the SAN/NAS devic= e? >=20 > unionfs is still a "work in progress", some systems can't do that yet. That sounds like something that needs to be fixed. >> 3. Why not let the users choose where these directories go and support= >> both locations? >=20 > Because a plethera of options is a sure way to make sure that half of > them don't work over the long run. >=20 > We aren't Debian here people, we don't support "everything" :) Gentoo provides far more options than Debian does, so this seems somewhat contradictory to me. > If you want to support both, great, feel free to step up and do the > work. Fair enough, however, I should remind you that not much will happen without a decision from the Gentoo Council. I am willing to accept whatever decision they make, but I think that exposing this decision to users is something that is within our ability to do. Portage provides use with the ability to do abstractions that other distributions cannot do, such as permitting people to merge /usr{bin,lib{32,64,},sbin} into /. --------------enig84DB9AB8A839937E9C945295 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPYSlPAAoJELFAT5FmjZuEPNQP/08g1zviGmICWzrJRGgvpzW/ 6vxlefAHK/hc2wxgDwpWKFs0N0iqHrS/X7xdU62CaA5fo4fZnc4Yub44lqo3elj6 KBYftFLvvN8GlzMaOrRfZYbUARffUEMj/1ZWj60CRylgsf3kxR6xW9BEKfcAdn8X r7SNeKb0+X1L5QIIyaM4Gu+1h22cXSEk5O+ieEa/HXpPKD6ZfQK2IJKngPauOX6o CBezTqoaWPD7aY7qAoQ81xVojpjAVQVZKTGhtyrFrGW2LhYq9mvR0q19vcnDNowB rpipnK4tr25XaZnEYelBSm5A+vtaNcIk76IxnTRPiQIPJYQACP7YTFFwk8zIC2vH Eqf+B0k+tZSq167eSzs3gZSPM5DyTvJoJ1ll1JZ3rLhQvf1zccVAc7Smqpx2N7g5 2m8jROQ3JgIDu82ny4Yw3EddW7sJ1uR+MchnqVnjIgQOhZq0tsUj8U/Fdz3/O50X X3gXYC5KmAGqjoe/2q9oWgJb/FhdU4KU2M2+bRv6IoFyfS0cuZ2Lpgq1yVFUqcdP gxv31Q2SQwQTiJuYIAZsIpmWVIYHYj3xtcsGs0RhdsOtCoV+X11/pcgjzYFryLkB Ryyx0iwoyhrpnwtLWklXnIEb4S4EtNY8KCfyA44zrbgmP7ghmErp7AZaY39UQZsj ScbShzbZPM3uFTX6msxC =XJ8K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig84DB9AB8A839937E9C945295--