From: Richard Yao <ryao@cs.stonybrook.edu>
To: <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Cc: Zac Medico <zmedico@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:03:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F60F9A1.2090402@cs.stonybrook.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F60E9C1.7050600@gentoo.org>
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On 03/14/12 14:56, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 03/14/2012 11:36 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 19:58, Matthew Summers
>> <quantumsummers@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>> Why is an in-kernel initramfs so bad anyway? I am baffled. Its quite
>>> nice to have a minimal recovery env in case mounting fails, etc, etc,
>>> etc.
>>
>> There is nothing bad about initramfs. I think that you are misreading
>> the arguments above.
>
> Whatever the arguments may be, the whole discussion boils down to the
> fact that the only people who seem to have a "problem" are those that
> have a separate /usr partition and simultaneously refuse to use an
> initramfs.
I do not have a separate /usr partition, however I agree with Joshua
Kinard's stance regarding the /usr move. The point of having a separate
/usr was to enable UNIX to exceed the space constraints that a 1.5MB
hard disk placed on rootfs. As far as I know, we do not support a 1.5MB
rootfs so it would make sense to deprecate the practice of having things
that belong in / in /usr directory, as opposed to making /usr into a new /.
Deprecation of this practice would mean that people could type
/bin/command instead of /usr/bin/command in situations where absolute
paths are necessary. We could symlink things in /usr to rootfs for
compatibility with legacy software. In a more extreme case, we could
symlink /usr to /, which would make plenty of sense given that we do not
need a separate /usr at all.
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Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-11 2:27 [gentoo-dev] newsitem: unmasking udev-181 William Hubbs
2012-03-11 2:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2012-03-11 3:28 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-11 3:50 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-11 5:12 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-11 17:33 ` William Hubbs
2012-03-11 17:35 ` Samuli Suominen
2012-03-11 18:00 ` Michał Górny
2012-03-13 1:22 ` [gentoo-dev] Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181] Joshua Kinard
2012-03-13 1:37 ` Kent Fredric
2012-03-13 2:16 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-13 2:33 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-03-13 3:14 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-13 3:53 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-13 5:17 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-14 0:20 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 0:52 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-13 13:36 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-03-13 10:31 ` Jeroen Roovers
2012-03-13 11:54 ` James Broadhead
2012-03-14 0:16 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 8:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-03-14 12:40 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 14:41 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 14:51 ` Philip Webb
2012-03-14 15:04 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 15:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-03-14 15:22 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 15:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-03-14 21:00 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 16:28 ` Matthew Summers
2012-03-15 13:22 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 17:11 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-03-14 17:29 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-14 17:58 ` Matthew Summers
2012-03-14 18:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-03-14 18:36 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-03-14 18:56 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-14 19:14 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-03-14 19:26 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-14 19:57 ` David Leverton
2012-03-14 21:04 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 22:14 ` David Leverton
2012-03-14 22:51 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 23:21 ` David Leverton
2012-03-14 23:44 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 23:58 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-15 0:07 ` Greg KH
2012-03-15 0:29 ` David Leverton
2012-03-15 11:20 ` Stelian Ionescu
2012-03-15 12:23 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 14:01 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 23:47 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 0:36 ` David Leverton
2012-03-15 0:45 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 0:49 ` David Leverton
2012-03-15 12:27 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 15:29 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 0:58 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-15 1:06 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 1:49 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-16 23:29 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-16 23:29 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 12:16 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 12:09 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 22:39 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-14 22:49 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 23:27 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-14 23:37 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 23:51 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-15 1:07 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-15 1:37 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 1:44 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-16 1:17 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-16 1:18 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-15 5:18 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-15 8:13 ` Martin Gysel
2012-03-15 12:40 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 20:44 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-17 7:12 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-19 5:21 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15 12:34 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 20:45 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-15 21:49 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-03-14 20:03 ` Richard Yao [this message]
2012-03-14 20:55 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-14 21:05 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-15 4:10 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 12:47 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 13:36 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 19:30 ` Jeroen Roovers
2012-03-15 5:04 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-14 17:59 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-15 5:24 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-15 12:51 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 20:12 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15 11:04 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 12:30 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-15 13:05 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 14:42 ` Greg KH
2012-03-15 19:04 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-15 19:17 ` [gentoo-dev] /dev/serial/ (was "Let's redesign the entire filesystem!") Greg KH
2012-03-15 19:41 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-15 14:41 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! Greg KH
2012-03-16 0:47 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-16 2:43 ` Greg KH
2012-03-16 3:01 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-16 15:18 ` Greg KH
2012-03-16 17:00 ` Michael Orlitzky
[not found] ` <7c08803524244ff0808d16539b8f9926@HUBCAS2.cs.stonybrook.edu>
2012-03-16 22:41 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-13 14:41 ` [gentoo-dev] Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181] Marc Schiffbauer
2012-03-13 23:12 ` James Broadhead
2012-03-14 12:00 ` James Cloos
2012-03-14 17:52 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-14 18:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-03-14 20:10 ` Kent Fredric
2012-03-15 6:33 ` Duncan
2012-03-15 13:07 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-13 5:11 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181 Luca Barbato
2012-03-14 0:13 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 8:03 ` Duncan
2012-03-14 12:07 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 18:43 ` Duncan
2012-03-14 21:13 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15 13:10 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 21:49 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-11 3:44 ` Dale
2012-03-11 5:48 ` Duncan
2012-03-11 11:03 ` Petteri Räty
2012-03-11 15:33 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-11 21:28 ` Petteri Räty
2012-03-11 21:43 ` William Hubbs
2012-03-11 21:48 ` Petteri Räty
2012-03-11 23:15 ` William Hubbs
2012-03-12 12:37 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-12 17:01 ` Matthias Hanft
2012-03-12 19:32 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-13 14:34 ` Petteri Räty
2012-03-11 22:57 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-13 8:43 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 9:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 0:29 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 0:36 ` Stelian Ionescu
2012-03-14 1:04 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-03-14 1:14 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-14 13:02 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-13 10:32 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-11 6:49 ` Ryan Hill
2012-03-11 21:08 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-11 23:03 ` Duncan
2012-03-11 23:14 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-12 9:02 ` Duncan
2012-03-12 14:09 ` Marc Schiffbauer
2012-03-12 19:41 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-13 2:06 ` Ryan Hill
2012-03-12 18:34 ` Sven Vermeulen
2012-03-13 2:04 ` Ryan Hill
2012-03-11 8:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Neil Bothwick
2012-03-11 8:41 ` Michał Górny
2012-03-11 9:36 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-11 10:43 ` Michał Górny
2012-03-11 17:26 ` William Hubbs
2012-03-11 18:08 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-03-11 23:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-03-12 20:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Robin H. Johnson
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