From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S7byG-0004TL-VW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:21:41 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F5CAE0D29; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81400E0C80 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lC371i0030QuhwU5DCM4cw; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:21:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.13] ([76.106.69.86]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lCM31i00k1rgsis3NCM3FN; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 00:21:04 +0000 Message-ID: <4F5FE465.3060502@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:20:53 -0400 From: Joshua Kinard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:10.0) Gecko/20120129 Thunderbird/10.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181] References: <20120311022706.GA26296@linux1> <4F5C1BE9.3040609@gentoo.org> <20120311173355.GB6599@linux1> <4F5EA152.80604@gentoo.org> <1F113AE5-F916-4F24-A4A3-5C142CC77438@gentoo.org> <4F5EBB8F.5080601@gentoo.org> <4F5ED879.2040001@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4F5ED879.2040001@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig22ADAB8660BB64F1A0C337F3" X-Archives-Salt: 993c3aa1-4663-4d21-b20e-475b360fc838 X-Archives-Hash: 430d41e704185b6bbd933c1160dd08b1 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig22ADAB8660BB64F1A0C337F3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/13/2012 01:17, Luca Barbato wrote: >=20 > So you need need a smaller udev that is completely self contained and m= ake > sure anything needed for the key rules works. I wonder if the pci-ids c= annot > stay somewhere in /etc or /lib >=20 > lu I think gregkh is already on record as saying that the pci-ids file is go= ing to go into /usr and stay there. The errors I got weren't from that, thou= gh, it was the init scripts trying to find udevadm, and then not finding libkmod, which was likely installed into /usr/lib64. I guess I don't run a "standard" Linux system anymore. I build a fairly monolithic kernel that contains device drivers for all the hardware in th= e machine needed to get it up and running, while miscellaneous modules (lik= e CIFS or the Happy MEal quad ethernet card) are modulues. My MIPS systems= all run pure monolithic, completely lacking module support entirely. The trend now seems to be to modularize everything these days, even stuff= like the core disk drivers, then build those core modules into an initram= fs that the kernel cherrypicks from at boot. That's the perception, anyways= , and one which I don't really get. Correct me if I'm wrong... --=20 Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS kumba@gentoo.org 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. A= nd our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-bet= ween." --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic --------------enig22ADAB8660BB64F1A0C337F3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPX+RlAAoJENsjoH7SXZXjXmUP/11XaSklTs43MjImL1unweBQ GFRoSHq2Ktm5id0ba00O9vU2uHvm47IxnAEH0kC2dZmoZfPc8HwTHo7PafuQKZQA SkPYHBBwvdIBxpUKJ34YDgL+okfVcrbqgEGm+5D1Si1xL5YiU02F/PKL3b9VAhaw y2HemRG9X3bB52tESLary3ZfJzVi6ffToFTsOWy+xmmBBgv9n3FFTvmxzPl34egt A65zCHu95EDxszNAaIxq8f48QuD4KmEqrfhFXjZQokpcDmMF5Svz99BkZdszNmHj U07H20ZUmhSzJ/XaCakBarlpSC0nTkVdvf1y8KUjUbcpLfMTcC2AJwKWj6fquoxF 2qDCDIMuJBmkDRns13qbTwUqSVirWZXdpXSys4dIigLRH6YOqvxwljEzrokPM4qx 9bHmRPI0YJHzsALJo99+gtMcx+AkIt4NTsEFvlc+mKs6PygERA0sr84CcBJv0/l0 UIAaz4nkGWNNXqrUlbt0e3O6b9p9wqYmJ/K8M+JcNbti8Nk8iyt9pkiQ7vR9VgUw F9rDL2/kkUKPPLdXfzMpXRyCH+y6HpZgU9J6NQjm3Lvyr5IrPCc/re5WW9uLLqZo jXUiAqdnWWjZpa33FJBWPLsanDdhQpMp4IkJjo5jqJNIH4lNABSID8yF0r8+MZ1d UHVewvDiMJlRzZJVEPYu =8D02 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig22ADAB8660BB64F1A0C337F3--