From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S7K1k-00079G-Fg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:12:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3BD1E0CC4; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9713FE0CA2 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Nyx.local (ip72-219-158-27.oc.oc.cox.net [72.219.158.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lu_zero) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D48A31B4062 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F5ED6E7.5060906@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:11:03 -0700 From: Luca Barbato User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120308 Thunderbird/11.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181 References: <20120311022706.GA26296@linux1> <4F5C1BE9.3040609@gentoo.org> <20120311173355.GB6599@linux1> In-Reply-To: <20120311173355.GB6599@linux1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b8f77162-ced9-4adb-95a4-4b7116261d3b X-Archives-Hash: 0acd92a0f7d7aafaa093b589cd46c7c5 On 3/11/12 10:33 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 07:28:41PM -0800, Luca Barbato wrote: >> On 3/10/12 6:53 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> neither the genkernel nor dracut docs have specific instructions about >> >> I guess we could pour more effort in getting dracut more easy to use >> and/or try to figure out which are the items that should be moved to / >> and fix the remaining ones... > > I highly discourage moving more things to /. If you google for things > like, "case for usr merge", "understanding bin split", etc, you will > find much information that is very enlightening about the /usr merge and > the reasons for the /bin, /lib, /sbin -> /usr/* split. Our current init system doesn't have any problem with /usr being mounted later, but udev might have issues. Same could be said about bluez and dbus. > I'll start another thread about this farely soon, but for now I'll say > that even though Fedora is a strong advocate of the /usr merge, it > didn't start there. Solaris started this 15 years ago, and I think it > would be a good thing for gentoo to implement the /usr merge at some > point to make us more compatible with other unixes. Another thing to add > is that it appears that at least Fedora and Debian are doing this. Hurd got it first if I recall correctly. But hurd is a bit fringe I'd say. lu