From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S7DdX-00061Y-2S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:22:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA275E0BC2; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:22:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.caf.com.tr (mail.caf.com.tr [88.250.130.162]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36370E0C19 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mta.caf.com.tr [10.0.2.208]) by mail.caf.com.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EF26008C for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:22:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at caf.com.tr Received: from mail.caf.com.tr ([10.0.2.205]) by localhost (check.caf.com.tr [10.0.2.205]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id iDMqdr8ZixSp for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.180] (unknown [176.33.151.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.caf.com.tr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8407E60074 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F5E76FB.9020409@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:21:47 +0200 From: Eray Aslan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Change mail-mta/msmtp to be the default in virtual/mta instead of mail-mta/ssmtp ? References: <4F5E5794.8050004@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF4D00093238C310FBFC3B169" X-Archives-Salt: 40e01a8c-3805-4edc-8ed4-daf71be2943d X-Archives-Hash: 3890b563717d77f5f49aca1739b34147 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF4D00093238C310FBFC3B169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-03-12 10:20 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > One of the greatest things that bugs me about ssmtp is that if the > mailserver is not available, it hangs for a while, and then it loses th= e > email.=20 To be fair, a queue-less design does keep it simple. > Where I need a simple mail relay, I've gone with nullmailer instead, > because it supports the features, and it explicitly has a lightweight > daemon mode that queues mail to send. msmtp: TLS/SSL and AUTH support. Config can be easier. No queue. nullmailer: AUTH support. No TLS/SSL. Easy to configure and use. Has a queue. I like nullmailer better but usually go with msmtp. TLS/SSL is usually mandatory for login when emails go to some central mail hub and not directly to MX hosts - which is pretty much guaranteed nowadays. I am not sure if we should install a TLS-less mailer by default. Some documantation would be nice in either case. --=20 Eray Aslan --------------enigF4D00093238C310FBFC3B169 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJPXncGAAoJEHfx8XVYajsf8usQAJwO5pV3gjTL6VDlJO/4RtLv YPoy2dFVYd6i4iC2UnEFSv0w3zKCKs2mVKF6xIRIviC5n3hVY/BU7GeIKGbKg4Gq RlU/byM+6M/T3rJttySVmuYnvlBJTwKVvq2dAWyE+RqOFakJYoxthX2KiRvk0jDV khhuKxtKKQyhto3TdAJFnMtfzMjUZQG7qjd28Gw+nOCqvIpzKrmxo6Oj0lzVqUWo pYu5WhCsN8E5DFpqQPzBehEXP/ZNIMZ3B+FOkIjRV7jnL9Tv7LZT9UEWCXDejaIS 60Cn4Aac04tAIOVZb2EKquepBuqaReSKeFE0Fe8nIBklz9mR7LGMBRoMGc+3no7F tNkaqEbTmDVfH9S+nqWmuwZIM0IiLDGm3X/gSlLjnioLV3ZT+NWfv2x3/m31NvmH v39Ka6xBoY0zlAbLUupoZhYU+eHNP40iS8Rxei+cEG1Kxmm/znx5HYCTLh3qv5g1 lvor4xISeyVczS2EPXC3m9vOvFmGmNeHjo3sVumUMt7g1WeaO1HjVgi7qRkm6srK x/HBFWE2pbJkLVD1OBu9rhS+ET0flweGauvEcb0TCYBycOtmI6ShxmpcdT6KZzHS xaDt1MLGkboyaDH+yzfjZMRZY8T2ZWWBQpnN1w5S8lAVUb9sDxPtJ8o+BcGD+V2I ivPYLHYPw9tdoxZOtmVZ =VEF1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF4D00093238C310FBFC3B169--