From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S6Zid-0003nG-G3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:45:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1634E06FD; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E508E05BE for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 03:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenq2 with SMTP id q2so1963618yen.40 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:44:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=NTsPy4g1EXhg/i9rKuNavIErv+3YFklXwjUYE+B165w=; b=ThslZpDdldcOL4EWOIyjEBOaPsSG3yeg0lSqKSv98fYqgVHLhtg8VVeiG85s7QP/TU z35mWieq5Hyyn5uZB2t/1aDnhcpPSQGm7/J5y49QHVklAR9Y0knaU1LYKeA+iuXVy+Rb Kh0I6zE8WtxHAZjs88RyOLJSvZ3YUH///44wus+Zzn8+sCcU4KMFe6kvEZMk0z9uwJ0V /9WQgulsaA/+7lZXvhF6bLGorA/rkd2Hea4BeAnT6yCTU2vSAg/QVuiGV0tNS0o1J2H/ nDD9EX7FlwRn9qqe+WxDUBxC/4OEtHI8pFGgjElCfqYFezPFZVPFJj8PYFlQb7Tt8yKY nyqQ== Received: by 10.100.212.4 with SMTP id k4mr2724727ang.35.1331437481840; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:44:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-214-242.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.214.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t43sm27485477yht.11.2012.03.10.19.44.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:44:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F5C1FA7.4020700@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:44:39 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120301 Firefox/10.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.7.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181 References: <20120311022706.GA26296@linux1> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: ef46b813-823c-4d21-a4a5-a7786595e6a7 X-Archives-Hash: 7bd0478306d22154920a679f2033b935 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:27 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> here is the udev 181 unmasking news item. >> >> If all goes well, this will be committed to the tree on 3/14 UTC. > > I guess this might be OK for unstable, but before this goes stable we > really need to improve the docs around this. As far as I can tell > neither the genkernel nor dracut docs have specific instructions about > how to handle mounting /usr. Since having a separate /usr is often > the result of having a more complex configuration (nfs, lvm, mdraid, > etc), instructions explaining how things work and how to handle > variations is pretty important. Perhaps genkernel automagically does > the right thing in some cases, but I know that dracut does not unless > you properly configure it. I doubt either tool will handle more > complex situations without some scripting. > > I'm not really asking for automation here - just documentation and > reasonable stability in how things work. > > Again, this is likely more of a concern before this is stabilized. > However, knowing what I went through to get my bind-mounted /usr on > LVM+mdraid working with dracut, I can imagine that any unstable users > with tricky setups could face a fun weekend. > > Perhaps a suggestion for the news item. I'd recommend that anybody > who needs an initramfs to mount /usr get that working BEFORE they > upgrade udev. This situation is a heck of a lot easier to figure out > if the system still can be booted when the initramfs doesn't work. > > Rich > > +1 Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"