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From: Krzysztof Pawlik <nelchael@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass for Python
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:19:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4E964A.40509@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201202292208.09522.dilfridge@gentoo.org>

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On 29/02/12 22:08, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 29 Februar 2012, 21:24:49 schrieb Krzysztof Pawlik:
>>> Second, there doesn't seem to be any support for packages that do not
>>> install in python's site-packages and do not allow multiple python ABIs.
>>> If I have, for example, a package that installs python modules
>>> in /usr/lib/appname or /usr/share/appname, how can I specify that
>>> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2.6" or "python2.7" or "python3.2" is allowed, but
>>> something like PYTHON_TARGETS="python2.7 python3.2" is not?
>>
>> You're correct, note that I've stressed that this eclass is mainly for
>> distutils-based packages. I'm not using Gnome, so can you provide some
>> package examples that I can look at?
>>
>> <personal opinion>
>> If package decides to use given language then please, please play by the
>> rules set by the rest of world (Ruby -> gems, Python -> distutils, Perl ->
>> CPAN, PHP -> PEAR).
>>
>> I don't like installing Python code outside of site-packages, the only
>> exception to that rule is portage (at least for now).
>> </personal opinion>
> 
> We will hit the same problem with KDE (actually we already hit it): it has 
> various types of scripting support, and each installs a KDE library linked to 
> whatever language interpreter.
> 
> (Now, that library- is it a Python/Ruby library or a KDE library? Because it 
> is at the proper place for KDE stuff :)
> 
> It's not just about calling an external language but also about embedding the 
> interpreter for in-app scripting... and KDE rather heavily relies on python.

I agree with last sentence - it's about embedding Python/Ruby/Foo, *this eclass
is about installing packages for Python*. Compiling against an implementation is
something completely different -- for example try building against Jython.

-- 
Krzysztof Pawlik  <nelchael at gentoo.org>  key id: 0xF6A80E46
desktop-misc, java, vim, kernel, python, apache...


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-29 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-28 21:13 [gentoo-dev] New eclass for Python Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-02-29  3:21 ` Sergei Trofimovich
2012-02-29 17:34   ` Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-02-29  5:13 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-python] " Mike Gilbert
2012-02-29 17:35   ` Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-02-29  7:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2012-02-29 17:38   ` Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-02-29 18:03     ` Jeroen Roovers
2012-02-29  8:11 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-python] " Dirkjan Ochtman
2012-02-29 17:39   ` Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-02-29 18:39     ` Mike Gilbert
2012-02-29  8:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabian Groffen
2012-02-29 17:34   ` Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-02-29 19:51 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2012-02-29 20:24   ` Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-02-29 21:08     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-02-29 21:19       ` Krzysztof Pawlik [this message]
2012-02-29 21:57     ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2012-03-01 18:42       ` Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-03-03  7:59 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-python] " Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2012-03-03  8:18   ` Zac Medico
2012-03-25 18:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-03-25 19:08   ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-26  7:20   ` justin
2012-03-26 16:11     ` Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-03-26 16:23       ` Krzysztof Pawlik
2012-04-04  8:50         ` Corentin Chary
2012-04-04 14:22           ` Mike Gilbert
2012-04-04 14:29             ` Corentin Chary
2012-04-04 14:41           ` Mike Gilbert
2012-04-05  0:07             ` Brian Harring
2012-04-05  0:36               ` Mike Gilbert
2012-04-05  0:45                 ` Brian Harring
2012-03-26  7:21   ` justin
2012-03-26 16:02     ` Krzysztof Pawlik

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