From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-49405-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1RnPpE-0000kg-CW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:20:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33B86E07E6; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:20:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA327E07CC for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenr8 with SMTP id r8so187320yen.40 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:20:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hRAVBR9XhbsPV3HS2V5wdD1+dwr9EPdf9S4MB2bRzrw=; b=Q3bOxjPdd2xz/MH1Oyr65lWFtULdW3Cd61V/Numb450Z83oDHb6qyLF96KZssPT5tb CFhdX+Ra42Je4uZvlgyrB8L6hldb8dIG0NWD1sPab0BrUTV/IVjKSobxN2aU8k9/GYVm lo00CM7WIH1HHEBZmpN+52xGKOLxAVL0zJrHU= Received: by 10.236.201.201 with SMTP id b49mr29415981yho.18.1326871211237; Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-147-47.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.147.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 19sm50058636any.16.2012.01.17.23.20.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:20:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F1672A3.2040802@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:20:03 -0600 From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20120112 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr References: <4F0440B3.4090500@gentoo.org> <CAGfcS_nuCOpK=yrCN38hZMi7CZqYKZuqfmTdybjiOO51fqZ9cQ@mail.gmail.com> <20120106160719.GB18959@fury> <201201080047.27281.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <20120108103345.382b8db3@pomiocik.lan> <20120110181452.GA14155@mailgate.onlinehome-server.info> <20120110194640.7696d2c7@pomiocik.lan> <4F163EB2.8050700@gmail.com> <20120118080213.4f533693@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <20120118080213.4f533693@pomiocik.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: ef7ea36f-d69f-4da8-9e89-18cb26eac129 X-Archives-Hash: 3e3028335f1e9558399983051a60bf8e Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:38:26 -0600 > Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: >>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 >>> Enrico Weigelt<weigelt@metux.de> wrote: >>> >>>> * Micha?? G=C3=B3rny<mgorny@gentoo.org> schrieb: >>>> >>>>> Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? >>>> I guess, he means keeping udev in / ? >>> Because adding 80 KiB of initramfs hurts so much? We should then put >>> more work just to ensure that admin doesn't have to waste 15 >>> minutes to recompile the kernel (if necessary), create an initramfs >>> and add it to bootloader config? >>> >> 80Kbs? You sure about that? I somehow failed to mention this >> before. I noticed it when I saw another reply to this post. Reality >> check: > 80 KiB is enough for mounting plain /usr and booting with it. See > tiny-initramfs (but I haven't tested it thoroughly). > My plan is to have /usr on lvm. I think it will end up larger and it=20 still adds one more thing to break. I really wish someone would get a better plan. I think I see a garbage=20 dump ahead with lots of Linux distros headed that way. Dale :-) :-) --=20 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or = how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=3D"--quiet-build=3Dn"