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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
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Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote:
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> On 10.01.2012 19:56, Dale wrote:
>> Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 Enrico
>>> Weigelt<weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> * Micha?? G=C3=B3rny<mgorny@gentoo.org> schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>> Does working hard involve compiling even more packages
>>>>> statically?
>>>> I guess, he means keeping udev in / ?
>>> Because adding 80 KiB of initramfs hurts so much? We should then
>>> put more work just to ensure that admin doesn't have to waste 15
>>> minutes to recompile the kernel (if necessary), create an
>>> initramfs and add it to bootloader config?
>>>
>>
>> Took me days to get dracut to work. Where does 15 minutes come
>> from? How much time does it take when the initramfs fails? I keep
>> hoping that all the smart people involved in this will see the mess
>> it is creating. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I'm sharp
>> enough to see the mess this is going to create and I'm just a
>> desktop user. I feel sorry for people with more complicated
>> systems or remote ones.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-) :-)
>>
> If you have got it working once, it should take less than 15 minutes
> (I've made myself a bashscript with the exact dracut commandline
> parameters needed for my system).
>
> But I have to agree with you, that exotic setups (I have encypted root
> on my laptop) are very bad documented.
> If dracut shall become standard for Gentoo (alternative: genkernel can
> build an initramfs) someone will have to write an exact howto with the
> most important (or better all) commandline arguments and kernel
> commandline parameters.
>
> Hinnerk
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If I recall correctly, it took me at least three or four web sites and=20
the man page to get dracut to work. This is something that needs to be=20
worked on hugely before this goes to much farther. Gentoo doesn't need=20
to lose its status on the docs. I tried to follow the Gentoo doc and it=20
would not even boot. I tried everything I could find but it still=20
didn't work. Out of date, maybe. I dunno. It just didn't work for=20
me. Thing is, my current setup doesn't even need one. I plan to have a=20
separate /usr on LVM as soon as I can get me one more large drive. I'll=20
have to have one then.
Dale
:-) :-)
--=20
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or =
how you interpreted my words!
Miss the compile output? Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=3D"--quiet-build=3Dn"