From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RkkW4-0004X6-Bb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:50:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7EE0721C06E; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B767321C021 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr19 with SMTP id r19so56402ghr.40 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:49:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J6ZPe9gdeGNFLVo8eXz7NchrAEMh9Pn1raAx+RQrXIc=; b=ZORaOs//Q+sllYU6J8Stzm9xLmRazBsdHHG/YyJMYL2Q9TG7VyJtWQOQUgkmSKp379 N8lISdMVGnLGTdcSJHrWdljnmc5iQiMBW1TDYqypXoQUGZMnEiJVIk+2wxg++ly98GFC wykvQEQ9pcVv+N4+CVaUi5AXpZ9qa2Y8YU8gM= Received: by 10.236.116.129 with SMTP id g1mr29264981yhh.107.1326235748224; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-65-42.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.65.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 32sm196261755ant.12.2012.01.10.14.49.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:49:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0CC05F.9060407@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:49:03 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20120104 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr References: <4F0440B3.4090500@gentoo.org> <20120106160719.GB18959@fury> <201201080047.27281.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <20120108103345.382b8db3@pomiocik.lan> <20120110181452.GA14155@mailgate.onlinehome-server.info> <20120110194640.7696d2c7@pomiocik.lan> <4F0C89CB.6010402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e519e23b-001d-4b1a-8a72-e592fbd13bd5 X-Archives-Hash: 8f8f9636f608fdf703b667d9e78ba3e7 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Dale wrote: >> Took me days to get dracut to work. Where does 15 minutes come from? How >> much time does it take when the initramfs fails? > I've used dracut on a few VMs now and on my main Gentoo box. My > experience has been that it didn't take long to figure out, and it is > trivially easy to install. > > Now, whether it works is a separate issue. Most of the time it works > just fine, and it is no harder to deploy than typing genkernel all. > > When it doesn't work then you're going to spend a whole lot more time > trying to fix it - I'm still tweaking mine. Granted, its failure mode > is only disastrous in an unattended system in my case since I can just > type one line at the dash shell and exit and it boots fine. I just > need to get unlazy and debug the script... > > Rich > > I finally got dracut to work, I think it is anyway. I asked on the user list but no one knows I guess since there are no replies. I tried genkernel when I first installed Gentoo. I found it MUCH easier to do my own kernel. Genkernel never built a bootable kernel for my rig. I don't recall the errors now but it didn't work and I tried many times. I still do my kernels by hand. The thing about me is that I left my previous distro because of the init thingy CONSTANTLY failing and rpm dependency issues. Now, here I am again. By the way, I didn't mess with the init thingy either. It broke all on its own. This makes me wonder if the dependency issues has gotten sorted out. My brothers Kubuntu seems to work fine. It just makes me wonder. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"