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Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:40:01 -0600
From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
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Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:56:11 -0600
> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100
>>> Enrico Weigelt<weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> * Micha?? G=C3=B3rny<mgorny@gentoo.org> schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>> Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically?
>>>> I guess, he means keeping udev in / ?
>>> Because adding 80 KiB of initramfs hurts so much? We should then put
>>> more work just to ensure that admin doesn't have to waste 15
>>> minutes to recompile the kernel (if necessary), create an initramfs
>>> and add it to bootloader config?
>>>
>>
>> Took me days to get dracut to work. Where does 15 minutes come
>> from?
> I just took the time I needed to write an initramfs from scratch
> and divided it by two, assuming using an already-made tool is simpler.
Wish it was like that for me. I never got one made from scratch to work.
>
>> How much time does it take when the initramfs fails?
> The same when rootfs fails? Only the fact that initramfs is less likely
> to break than rootfs, and you have a pretty good opportunity now to
> experiment with it while nothing on your system made it useless without
> one.
Funny, I never had the rootfs fail before. I have had init thingys fail=20
many many times. They lead to a reinstall since I had no idea how to=20
fix it.
>
>> I keep hoping that all the smart people involved in this will see the
>> mess it is creating. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I'm
>> sharp enough to see the mess this is going to create and I'm just a
>> desktop user. I feel sorry for people with more complicated systems
>> or remote ones.
> The mess was created by people shouting 'hey, real men use
> separate /usr for no good reason! Be awesome like us'.
>
I think it is more like people do that when they have a good reason to=20
do so. I plan to put mine on /usr when I get the chance and know that=20
this init crap isn't going to break my rig. It's not being "awesome"=20
either.
Dale
:-) :-)
--=20
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or =
how you interpreted my words!
Miss the compile output? Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=3D"--quiet-build=3Dn"