From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Rkgsn-0002Os-33 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:57:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B23A521C0E3; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB6121C0DC for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenm3 with SMTP id m3so2622394yen.40 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:56:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kvnoLBiX/x9K+IMPX4SpLf2SMbnXBn8BPdaJXshdITs=; b=uBp6DvLKX9jym6guJpVCKZS2VPZuAnFq2HvFKgkZRipPChHVEWHPizCf/wziWnDZiJ mBbDGqHWU6Z3zj8a1oxGkJA9R4iMW3+ddwXJrfG+V+X7276LIXnBzatt6DtdZuyPtvNn pWGCq9e6Q60fqDtQSCh3cBwxsOkZ8GD4E2pTo= Received: by 10.236.77.170 with SMTP id d30mr28604060yhe.67.1326221775260; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-65-42.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.65.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b36sm73683612yhj.22.2012.01.10.10.56.13 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:56:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F0C89CB.6010402@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:56:11 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20120104 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr References: <4F0440B3.4090500@gentoo.org> <20120106160719.GB18959@fury> <201201080047.27281.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <20120108103345.382b8db3@pomiocik.lan> <20120110181452.GA14155@mailgate.onlinehome-server.info> <20120110194640.7696d2c7@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <20120110194640.7696d2c7@pomiocik.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 1b08c410-b438-4882-a221-0b8b5c200c83 X-Archives-Hash: 5f68899329b583ff8937d67ac3325aba Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:14:52 +0100 > Enrico Weigelt wrote: > >> * Micha?? G=C3=B3rny schrieb: >> >>> Does working hard involve compiling even more packages statically? >> I guess, he means keeping udev in / ? > Because adding 80 KiB of initramfs hurts so much? We should then put > more work just to ensure that admin doesn't have to waste 15 minutes to > recompile the kernel (if necessary), create an initramfs and add it to > bootloader config? > Took me days to get dracut to work. Where does 15 minutes come from? =20 How much time does it take when the initramfs fails? I keep hoping that=20 all the smart people involved in this will see the mess it is creating. =20 I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I'm sharp enough to see the=20 mess this is going to create and I'm just a desktop user. I feel sorry=20 for people with more complicated systems or remote ones. Dale :-) :-) --=20 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or = how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=3D"--quiet-build=3Dn"