From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RiPcp-0007Aq-17 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:07:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62E3C21C0CD; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A40121C0A2 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.22] (p548D34C1.dip.t-dialin.net [84.141.52.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tommy) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C5B21B4011 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:06:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F0440B3.4090500@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:06:11 +0100 From: Thomas Sachau User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111223 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr References: <4F000C32.6020602@gentoo.org> <1325449284.12935.21.camel@TesterTop4> <20120101202355.30098545@googlemail.com> <1325454648.12935.24.camel@TesterTop4> <4F016DBE.2000209@gentoo.org> <1325616625.7238.23.camel@TesterBox.tester.ca> <20120103190255.GA13817@linux1> <20120103191206.GP780@gentoo.org> <20120103200120.GB13936@linux1> <20120103212215.GU780@gentoo.org> <20120103230918.GA7247@linux1> <4F03A1AA.6070205@gentoo.org> <20120104091743.0e1cd91a@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <20120104091743.0e1cd91a@pomiocik.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 OpenPGP: id=211CA2D4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig7B20F628535A8EDF4DE46D7A" X-Archives-Salt: 82eea10b-53a2-4a11-bead-3cbea3f2b278 X-Archives-Hash: 2b9a5e10a88b1a4ed7cddd207e4b4e8e This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig7B20F628535A8EDF4DE46D7A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny schrieb: > On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:47:38 +0100 > Thomas Sachau wrote: >=20 >> 2. switching from udev to mdev (avoids required /usr of udev) >> 3. some wrapper script to mount /usr before udev starts >=20 > These two should be really discouraged as a cheap, temporary solution. > We should not support hate-admining. I personally think that busybox is= > ready to go into /usr even earlier than udev. Please give us a bit more than just your opinion. Why do you see mdev as a temporary solution? And this part was not about the movement to /usr at all, so why do you suggest another movement here? And while you answer that, please also tell us, why you want to migrate packages to a different install location without a need. >=20 >> For the idea of complete migration to /usr, i see no reason to go this= >> route in advance. Just keep with our default install locations and >> follow upstream, if and where needed. >=20 > What about upstreams who do not care? In other words, all those > packages which we hack to install into rootfs? They install and work fine, so just keep it this way. I did not see any argument to move packages around, that work well and have no issue with their current install location. --=20 Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer --------------enig7B20F628535A8EDF4DE46D7A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iJwEAQECAAYFAk8EQLgACgkQG7kqcTWJkGeHLwQAzCtQNpzjEB+u4UHAonkw+kht uRk5S77+06W+9fAbJ3o5cI+skEXXowOLNBUQ14u2outxENKu3QCWI8R7Ee1kk6b9 fr6mYc0b16UCbBiq+xl3ELYmiwidcgus+32RLfqFTKb9r3kaGaJ+QrxGGwehzu0r qr4qPy0KpXBl+xvrf8o= =k69E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig7B20F628535A8EDF4DE46D7A--