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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default
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Zac Medico wrote:
> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
>> As I type:
>>
>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>>
>> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to
>> work like they have always worked. I say that as a user.
> As I've explained in my post to that forum thread [1], you have to
> factor in the "silent majority" that welcomes the change and does not
> express it publicly. A forumor mailing list thread tends to attract a
> "vocal minority", which tends to bias the discussion (or voting results)
> in way that does not give a fair statistical representation of the
> gentoo population as a whole (it excludes the "silent majority"). It's
> part of human nature that those who are displeased with the changed more
> likely to speak up than those who welcome the change.
>
> [1]
> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6871718.html?sid=960ebd269384029c21e708d8dfa745ef#6871718
The same could be said if the poll was going the other way as well. If
the results are not going to be used or just going to be explained away,
then why have the poll to begin with? I don't think you started the
poll but just saying. . .
Again, as a loooooong time user, I expect things to remain like they are
unless that is going to break something or is a must change with no
other option. That does happen from time to time but this is not one of
those times. I shouldn't have to go override settings just to keep it
like it was.
All this said, if my opinion doesn't matter, that's fine. I changed my
make.conf already. So now your change doesn't affect me. It just may
confuse the heck out of others that don't subscribe here and know about
the change. That is the biggest reason I subscribed here a long time
ago. Changes pop up that I wasn't expecting and I tend to like to see
things coming even if it is a freight train. ;-) This gives me time to
undo some things or at least prepare for them.
Later.
Dale
:-) :-)
--
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