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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:20:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EC15BFF.90503@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EC15A7D.6010209@gentoo.org>

On 11/14/2011 10:14 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 14/11/11 01:07 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
>> On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> As I type:
>>>
>>> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42%
>>>
>>> So far that's the winner.  As I posted earlier, people expect things to
>>> work like they have always worked.  I say that as a user.
> 
>> As I've explained in my post to that forum thread [1], you have to
>> factor in the "silent majority" that welcomes the change and does not
>> express it publicly.
> 
> Uhh..  isn't that like saying, in a general election, "you have to take
> into account all the people that don't vote" ??  Just sayin'...

You've snipped my comment about human nature, which is that those who
are displeased with the changed more likely to speak up than those who
welcome the change.

> My $0.02 is that, after 50-60 (or more? i lost count) posts on whether
> this flag is set or not, and what seems to be entrenchment instead of
> consolidation on either side, maybe this should be put on the agenda at
> the next Council meeting -- 5 mins of debate + a vote and the argument
> is done, right?

That sound fair to me. Maybe not entirely "statistically fair", but that
can only ever be approximated anyway.
-- 
Thanks,
Zac



  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-14 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-05  8:58 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] enable verbose build whenever it's possible Kacper Kowalik
2011-11-05  9:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2011-11-05  9:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fabian Groffen
2011-11-05 10:27 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-11-05 10:54   ` Fabio Erculiani
2011-11-05 11:05 ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-11-05 17:04   ` Michał Górny
2011-11-05 17:28     ` Kacper Kowalik
2011-11-05 13:09 ` Pacho Ramos
2011-11-05 20:00 ` Maciej Mrozowski
2011-11-05 20:55   ` Kacper Kowalik
2011-11-06  3:03   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2012-04-02 22:24     ` Pacho Ramos
2012-04-02 22:34       ` Zac Medico
2012-04-02 22:40         ` Pacho Ramos
2011-11-11  0:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2011-11-11  1:39   ` Mike Frysinger
2011-11-11  1:56     ` [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default Mike Frysinger
2011-11-11  2:11       ` Zac Medico
2011-11-11  2:59         ` Mike Frysinger
2011-11-11  3:17           ` Zac Medico
2011-11-11  3:23             ` Zac Medico
2011-11-11 15:11               ` Mike Frysinger
2011-11-11 15:44                 ` Zac Medico
2011-11-12 22:24                   ` Patrick Lauer
2011-11-12 22:48                     ` Rafael Goncalves Martins
2011-11-12 23:40                     ` Mike Frysinger
2011-11-12 23:46                       ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-11-12 23:49                       ` Rafael Goncalves Martins
2011-11-13  2:00                         ` Mike Gilbert
2011-11-15 10:21                         ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2011-11-13  0:05                       ` Hilco Wijbenga
2011-11-13  1:08                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-11-13 11:43                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Markos Chandras
2011-11-13 12:39                       ` Thomas Sachau
2011-11-13 13:04                         ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2011-11-13 13:59                           ` Thomas Sachau
2011-11-13 14:54                             ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2011-11-13 15:49                               ` Thomas Sachau
2011-11-13 15:59                                 ` Rich Freeman
2011-11-13 16:13                                   ` Matthew Summers
2011-11-13 20:46                                 ` Zac Medico
2011-11-13 23:09                                   ` Thomas Sachau
2011-11-13 23:41                                     ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14  0:24                                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-11-14  0:32                                         ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14  0:36                                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-11-14  0:40                                             ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14  0:45                                               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-11-14  0:59                                                 ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14  1:07                                                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-11-14  1:27                                       ` Thomas Sachau
2011-11-14  1:48                                         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-11-14  1:59                                         ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14  8:25                                           ` Alex Alexander
2011-11-14  8:50                                             ` JD Horelick
2011-11-14  9:39                                             ` Patrick Lauer
2011-11-14 16:29                                               ` Mike Frysinger
2011-11-14 15:19                                             ` Zac Medico
2011-11-15 12:27                                               ` Alex Alexander
2011-11-15 20:21                                                 ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14  8:47                                           ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2011-11-14 15:22                                             ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14 23:17                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-11-15 20:11                                                 ` Zac Medico
2011-11-16  1:50                                                   ` Duncan
2011-11-15 12:32                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Alex Alexander
2011-11-14 12:17                                       ` Dale
2011-11-14 12:23                                         ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2011-11-14 12:43                                           ` Dale
2011-11-14 12:49                                             ` Amadeusz Żołnowski
2011-11-14 13:11                                               ` Dale
2011-11-14 15:05                                                 ` Zac Medico
2011-11-13 14:54                             ` Rich Freeman
2011-11-13 16:24                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-11-13 19:01                             ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14 12:36                               ` Dale
2011-11-14 17:21                                 ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14 17:38                                   ` Dale
2011-11-14 18:07                                     ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14 18:14                                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2011-11-14 18:20                                         ` Zac Medico [this message]
2011-11-14 18:34                                       ` Dale
2011-11-14 18:55                                         ` Zac Medico
2011-11-14 22:06                                           ` Duncan
2011-11-14 19:02                                         ` Hilco Wijbenga
2011-11-14 19:16                                           ` Dale
2011-11-14 22:20                                         ` Alec Warner
2011-11-14 22:52                                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-11-15  1:52                                         ` Zac Medico
2011-11-13 10:48                     ` [gentoo-dev] " "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2011-11-13 16:59                       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-11-13 19:08                         ` Markos Chandras
2011-11-13 19:15                           ` Zac Medico
2011-11-11  6:59         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-11-11 15:50           ` Zac Medico
2011-11-11 16:09             ` Mike Frysinger
2011-11-11  4:48       ` Ryan Hill

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