From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RQ13y-0003v8-Pu for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:15:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD43921C0EE; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F2621C0DF for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.131] (CPE002401f30b73-CM001cea3ddad8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.224.72.201]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: axs) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2E001B4019 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EC15A7D.6010209@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:14:21 -0500 From: Ian Stakenvicius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b3pre Mnenhy/0.8.2 Thunderbird/3.1.12 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default References: <4EB4FA98.3080201@gentoo.org> <4EBD42EE.4060104@gentoo.org> <4EBEF208.5060500@gentoo.org> <201111121840.16686.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EBFBA75.3030500@gentoo.org> <1321188262-sup-4513@raeviah> <4EC0141E.2030900@gentoo.org> <4EC10B5D.3070204@gmail.com> <4EC14E12.2070703@gentoo.org> <4EC15219.70402@gmail.com> <4EC158FF.7090609@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4EC158FF.7090609@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7a0e8c61-7772-4638-af0c-60a774ded9a5 X-Archives-Hash: adc2677512aaa62493e60873d2927fb5 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 14/11/11 01:07 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 11/14/2011 09:38 AM, Dale wrote: >> As I type: >> >> emerge should show build output by default (unless --quiet-build=y) 42% >> >> So far that's the winner. As I posted earlier, people expect things to >> work like they have always worked. I say that as a user. > > As I've explained in my post to that forum thread [1], you have to > factor in the "silent majority" that welcomes the change and does not > express it publicly. Uhh.. isn't that like saying, in a general election, "you have to take into account all the people that don't vote" ?? Just sayin'... My $0.02 is that, after 50-60 (or more? i lost count) posts on whether this flag is set or not, and what seems to be entrenchment instead of consolidation on either side, maybe this should be put on the agenda at the next Council meeting -- 5 mins of debate + a vote and the argument is done, right? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAk7BWn0ACgkQAJxUfCtlWe0gvwD/ZyU1VkmIaLYP9sX7N0ynXWAH 2sr6ebi2tHVAvEcFMu0BAIBX8JRUYRbTTsOBmykfcm8OzJsDASoCLX4liYPIoT+i =hi57 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----