From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RPkrn-00041d-QZ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:57:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1151221C061; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA5B21C038 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.20] (e178070230.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.178.70.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chithanh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1BDAD1B4009 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EC06761.6000408@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:57:05 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2jDrS1UaGFuaCBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciBOZ3V54buFbg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111031 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux References: <20111111215344.GA31226@linux1> <201111131333.46343.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EC01171.6040107@gentoo.org> <201111131923.29050.vapier@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <201111131923.29050.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 4d8fb8c0-4ee8-430f-a96a-be66f5f9ab47 X-Archives-Hash: 054d41434d4001049aac674ecee45644 Mike Frysinger schrieb: >>>>> until we have replacement for all of its tools, it's always going t= o be >>>>> there. >>>> >>>> After net-tools is no longer needed for basic setups (which I unders= tand >>>> will be still the case after the proposed changes), why should it re= main >>>> in the system set? >>> >>> you snipped the following sentence where i explained why net-tools ca= n't >>> be removed. iproute2 replaces *most* of net-tools, not *all*. >> >> And do we need *all* of net-tools for basic setups? You said that >> currently openrc uses the host and domain name tools, but iirc sysctl >> can set hostname/domainname too (note that I do not to say that using >> sysctl is preferable). >=20 > yes, host/domain names can be set through sysctl, but as you say, that = isn't=20 > exactly preferable, and brings its own set of troubles. > -mike Ok, and do you see any other parts of net-tools that are needed for basic setups? Best regards, Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n