From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RPgy8-0003Dl-Vy for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:48:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E262521C1DF; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9144021C1BD for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.26.4] (ip98-164-193-252.oc.oc.cox.net [98.164.193.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zmedico) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D93D01B4016 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EC02CC0.9080907@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:46:56 -0800 From: Zac Medico User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111102 Thunderbird/7.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default References: <4EB4FA98.3080201@gentoo.org> <4EBD42EE.4060104@gentoo.org> <4EBEF208.5060500@gentoo.org> <201111121840.16686.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EBFBA75.3030500@gentoo.org> <1321188262-sup-4513@raeviah> <4EBFCD5D.3080807@gentoo.org> <1321194595-sup-8983@raeviah> <4EBFE727.8000903@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4EBFE727.8000903@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 39bd00ac-65ef-4eb7-9fdf-be23db8ab1cf X-Archives-Hash: 5f78b8be4a123ab77dec1fb1da32a688 On 11/13/2011 07:49 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Please give me a good reason, why i should by default do more things (adding quiet-build=n to the > default emerge opts or searching for and opening the build.log) and what i or others do get from > that. And less lines on the screen is no added value for me, it removes value. Why should we expose new users to legacy defaults that are useless to more than 99% users, when they would most likely prefer the --quiet-build display? -- Thanks, Zac