From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RPfXN-0002jY-OW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:16:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 660D121C1D7; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181DF21C1B9 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.26.4] (ip98-164-193-252.oc.oc.cox.net [98.164.193.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zmedico) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 455B11B4050 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EC0174C.1010900@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:15:24 -0800 From: Zac Medico User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111102 Thunderbird/7.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default References: <4EB4FA98.3080201@gentoo.org> <4EBEF208.5060500@gentoo.org> <4EBFA088.5020108@gentoo.org> <201111131159.34939.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EC015AB.3080900@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4EC015AB.3080900@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 0c7166a6-4abc-403c-8898-86840a333dca X-Archives-Hash: 8ed194356395f89df91a2575bd6dbc84 On 11/13/2011 11:08 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 11/13/2011 04:59 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Sunday 13 November 2011 05:48:40 Pawe=C5=82 Hajdan, Jr. wrote: >>> On 11/12/11 11:24 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: >>>> Most devs will be unhappy as it makes it harder to view the log >>>> while building. >>> >>> We can have a different default in the developer profile. >=20 >> the original reason for not doing this via profiles in the first >> place was old versions of portage would barf. i think that still >> applies to the developer profile :(. the first version of portage >> to support this option was released in like ~Mar 2011. -mike > Yeah but can't we just assume devs have recent versions of portage? I > can't imagine a dev using a 6-month old portage :-/ Another problem is that the user may have another EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS setting which overrides EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS from the profile, unless they use something like EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=3D"--foo ${EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS}" in order to explicitly inherit options from the profile. And no, I don't think we should make EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS into an "incremental" variable. I think the current behavior is just fine. --=20 Thanks, Zac