From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ROtO2-0006cI-OB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:51:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB841E0574; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420EBE0549 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.26.4] (ip98-164-193-252.oc.oc.cox.net [98.164.193.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zmedico) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ADFA01B4014 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EBD4457.4020208@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:50:47 -0800 From: Zac Medico User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111102 Thunderbird/7.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: have portage be quiet by default References: <4EB4FA98.3080201@gentoo.org> <4EBC67B8.7030506@gentoo.org> <201111102039.11647.vapier@gentoo.org> <201111102056.22664.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EBC845A.1000004@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c8fba644-06a6-4a57-8c8b-034886751fcc X-Archives-Hash: 20ef693e52cf6e366760552fadb4a746 On 11/10/2011 10:59 PM, Duncan wrote: > Zac Medico posted on Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:11:38 -0800 as excerpted: > >> I think --quiet-build would be a reasonable default, but --quiet >> suppresses various warning messages that I think need to be enabled by >> default for newbies. > > What's the difference in output format between --quiet, and the output > one gets with parallel portage jobs (not just MAKEOPTS but emerge-jobs, > too) turned on (my default these days)? > > If it's the same as with parallel emerge-jobs, yeah, quiet emerges by > default makes sense to me. It's identical. > But please do at least einfo the change, and what to do to get back to > non-quiet by default if desired. Someone mentioned a news item. I'm not > sure it warrants that, but certainly an einfo, and if a news item will > prevent needless bugs and is thought to be worth the required > bureaucracy, I've no problem with it. Yeah, I think a new item is a bit too much. I'll mention it in the ebuild ChangeLog, the RELEASE-NOTES, and I'll also trigger an elog message when upgrading from earlier versions. -- Thanks, Zac