From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ROtIK-0005j4-UP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:45:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CFE221C0B6; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F3121C0B5 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.26.4] (ip98-164-193-252.oc.oc.cox.net [98.164.193.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zmedico) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 057761B4042 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EBD42EE.4060104@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:44:46 -0800 From: Zac Medico User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111102 Thunderbird/7.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] have portage be quiet by default References: <4EB4FA98.3080201@gentoo.org> <4EBC93CF.3060203@gentoo.org> <4EBC954D.2020508@gentoo.org> <201111111011.55078.vapier@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <201111111011.55078.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 920d4145-9570-49bf-b0b5-25ca09c1d4ff X-Archives-Hash: 1de02d3291ce13bed23695ce1fcaa910 On 11/11/2011 07:11 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 10 November 2011 22:23:57 Zac Medico wrote: >> On 11/10/2011 07:17 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >>> On 11/10/2011 06:59 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>>> On Thursday 10 November 2011 21:11:38 Zac Medico wrote: >>>>> On 11/10/2011 05:56 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday 10 November 2011 20:39:11 Mike Frysinger wrote: >>>>>>> if you want quiet portage output, use something like --quiet when >>>>>>> running emerge. the verbosity of the build output isn't really an >>>>>>> issue imo. >>>>>> >>>>>> perhaps a more controversial question: should we make --quiet the >>>>>> default >>>>> >>>>> I think --quiet-build would be a reasonable default, but --quiet >>>>> suppresses various warning messages that I think need to be enabled by >>>>> default for newbies. >>>> >>>> WFM >>>> >>>> would putting this as EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS in profiles/base/make.defaults >>>> be too hideous for people to swallow ? >>> >>> Less than sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.43 will choke on that, it's an >>> unrecognized option. So, we'd better just enable it by default for the >>> next portage release. >> >> Actually, it's been around since portage-2.1.7.5 (bug #291200). Still, >> it's probably better not to set it in the profile. > > good point. we don't want to punish old portage users. let's enable it by > default in portage itself then. just add `elog` output to the portage ebuild > to inform users of the change ? or do we want a news item ? > > what's the flag to negate the default ? --no-quiet-build ? ;) > -mike It's --quiet-build=n. I've gone ahead and enabled it for release in portage-2.1.10.34: http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/portage.git;a=commit;h=0cc174b6fc28feb26ea151d76f794e0ff2c2fa39 -- Thanks, Zac